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Why locating MH370 in the Southern Ocean is so difficult
Quartz ^ | March 24, 2014 | Erik van Sebille

Posted on 03/25/2014 6:27:58 AM PDT by don-o

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To: SunkenCiv

What has happened to the “To” and “reply to post #” in your replies?


41 posted on 03/25/2014 8:34:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

The ocean eats things. It’s scary how often boats go down without a trace. The thing I’ve been pointing to on this is that it took us 6 weeks to find the Challenger’s cockpit and hundreds of cameras and all of NASA’s tracking equipment watched it happen. When you get a situation like this where basically nothing was watching when the plane went down the chances of it being found are basically zero. If it’s found it’ll be one of those random events, somebody will be doing the Cousteau in just the right place and find the tail.


42 posted on 03/25/2014 8:43:47 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: All

Does anyone really believe that in the era of the hubble telescope, G.P.S. tracking and spy satellites that can read a license plate from space, that all the governments of the world couldn’t track or find a 300 foot airliner equipped with satellite technology? In the words of “INMARSAT” “NOT LIKELY”


43 posted on 03/25/2014 8:57:12 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: mulder1
Does anyone really believe that in the era of the hubble telescope,

Looking up - not down

G.P.S. tracking

Someone signal turn off

and spy satellites that can read a license plate from space,

License plate too small. Be like an ant on a football field.

that all the governments of the world couldn’t track or find a 300 foot airliner equipped with satellite technology?

Kinda looks that way.

44 posted on 03/25/2014 9:28:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: BuffaloJack

I foresee a news article a year or two from now with the headline “Could this be Flight MH370?” with photos of a 777 in some Middle East country painted in a different scheme and a blurred photo of a plane part showing a serial number specific to the lost plane.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 9:56:49 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: mulder1

Things disappear in the ocean all the time. Ships go down in well traveled water and never get found. A lot of the stuff you’re point too means nothing. The Hubble doesn’t look at earth, GPS requires a device to be pinging satellites, spy satellites can read lots of fine detail AFTER you know where to point them. 300 feet of plain in in 28 MILLION square miles worth of ocean (assuming it went down in the Indian Ocean like Inmarsat thinks) is basically invisible. Even if we drop it to the Southern Indian Ocean now you’ve “reduced” the zone to 14 million square miles.

This is reality not a TV show, mysteries don’t get solved in 42 minutes in reality. Out in reality mysteries often never get solved.


46 posted on 03/25/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: discostu
Then I guess we need out taxpayer money back. All of these great boastings about satellite technology are buls__t. Just another excuse for GOVERNMENT & BIG CORPORATIONS to steal our money.
47 posted on 03/25/2014 10:12:02 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: mulder1

They aren’t BS at all. They just don’t apply to this situation. They’re useful for looking at things we KNOW where to look. We look at military bases of known enemies all the time, they’re good for that, we know where the bases are. This went down in the middle of nowhere. The last time anything interesting happened in this part of the world was never. There was simply no reason to have of our satellites looking there, even if they were passing over at just the right moment they weren’t taking pictures because pictures of empty ocean are a waste of bits. The only BS in all this is coming out of you expecting all the world to work like an NCIS episode.


48 posted on 03/25/2014 10:19:45 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: BunnySlippers

>>, the water is swept along at very high speeds, sometimes almost 2m a second.

It starts breaking up and forms eddies. <<

Around and around in a circle -— at very high speeds, sometimes almost 2m a second.


49 posted on 03/25/2014 11:06:33 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: don-o

They were on that plane that went down.


50 posted on 03/25/2014 11:32:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Post 31
You might check those miles again.


51 posted on 03/25/2014 12:02:24 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Rockpile

Big mistake on my part. I hope the search teams didn’t use my calculations. Should be 93.16 nautical miles. Multiplied instead of divided.

FReegards,
DocRock

p.s. You are the only one to catch my error. Hat tip in your general direction.


52 posted on 03/25/2014 1:01:15 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: discostu
Maybe so, but the General said we have satellites called “L.E.O.’S AND THE GLOBAL HAWK THAT CAN GIVE CONTINUOUS VIDEO COVERAGE" of a possible crash Location”
53 posted on 03/25/2014 4:20:42 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: BunnySlippers
Does anyone know what “2m a second” is as a rate of speed?

Just ask Google: in mph: 4.47387; in miles per day: 107.372942.

54 posted on 03/25/2014 4:51:22 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: don-o

This area, known as the “roaring forties” due to its latitude of 40 degrees, has a long reach for wind to travel completely around the globe with no continental land masses to interfere. Consequently the sea is tumultuous with high waves of 40 feet or more as the norm.


55 posted on 03/25/2014 6:27:42 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: don-o
They can't find it because it's in Pakistan!

i think the US knowa exactly where it is.

56 posted on 03/25/2014 6:31:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: workerbee
Because ... it’s not there?

Yup.

57 posted on 03/25/2014 6:35:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: mulder1

Operative word CAN. It doesn’t mean they did. They need to have a reason to pay attention to a given area, the middle of the southern Indian Ocean is generally not on the pay attention list. You can’t rewrite history, if they weren’t taking pictures of the area at the time the plane went down then no footage exists. This is the big difference between the real world and CSI world, in the real world you have to tell the satellite operator you want footage of an area and time BEFORE the satellite is there at that time, in 42 minute solution world the satellites always just HAPPEN to have recorded what our startlingly good looking investigator need to break the case.


58 posted on 03/26/2014 7:54:55 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: discostu

THANKS MUCH:)


59 posted on 03/26/2014 8:06:05 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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