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Overcriminalization of America with Jason Lewis
American Legislator ^ | 3-25-14 | ALEC

Posted on 03/25/2014 2:30:58 PM PDT by ThethoughtsofGreg

On March 24, Cara Sullivan went on The Jason Lewis Show to discuss the importance of criminal justice reforms, which include mandatory minimum sentencing reform, criminal intent requirements within the law, provisional licensing and the pervasiveness of overcriminalization in America. Cara is the director of ALEC’s Justice Performance Project, which works to highlight the need for reforms within our criminal justice system and recently produced the report, “Criminalizing America – How Big Government Makes a Criminal of Every American.”

Listen below to Cara’s hour-long segment on The Jason Lewis Show:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanlegislator.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: conservative; jasonlewis; overcriminalization
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To: Secret Agent Man

Lets get specific:

In 2012 nearly half (48.3%) of all drug arrests were for marijuana — a total of 749,825.

Now go and Google the lethal dose for marijuana vs alcohol. Do you think a father should be imprisoned for consuming a beer at his backyard summer BBQ? A drug that does kill people merely from consumption alone.

Our country is arresting and jailing a huge number of people over this. Think about it. 750k cases all involving tens of thousands of lawyers, courts, cops, jails, judges... over what?
Billions of dollars are spent on this each year. Why?
Over a drug that can’t kill a person?

For the record even if marijuana was legal I wouldn’t do it. But my neighbor having the freedom to consume it would bother me about as much as a neighbor who smoked nicotine.

As a conservative I want to see less jails, less prisoners and families intact. I want to see people (as flawed as they might be) free to chose both good and bad.

Lets start looking less like China and more like America. A prison population like we have today isn’t a sign that America is free and healthy. It’s a sign that something is very wrong here.


21 posted on 03/25/2014 8:49:12 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

i have soberly contemplated it. to that end i do not do illegal drugs. or drive drunk. or even get intoxicated. i do not sell illegal drugs.

yes. i certainly have contemplated it. do you think the people who do illegal drugs or sell them, contemplated it?


22 posted on 03/25/2014 9:01:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RC51

i am more worried about the country jailing me, or trying to, because i won’t go along with them turning it into the ussa.


23 posted on 03/25/2014 9:03:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RC51

since when does a drug have to kill someone to be banned?

a teaspoon of nicotine can kill you.

for te pot users it’s not about tem dying, as muchg as them driving or doing stupid things while high, killing other people. colorado has arrested large numbersof pot users high while driving since they legalized it.

you want to die as the result of a drunk or a person high on drugs? sounds like you’d be just fine with it.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 9:07:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: The_Reader_David

many people who want drugs legalized want it not for the rights of others, but either because they want to do their favorite illegal drugs, and/or sell them. they care nothing for the fact people on illegal drugs commit theft and robbery and burglary and assault and in some cases battery and murder, to fuel their habits, or kill people while’high. they totally gloss over that because of their own ‘personal desires to do certain illegal drugs they like.

how bout you?


25 posted on 03/25/2014 9:19:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The elites don’t want drunks running into their limousines. They penalize bartenders who serve too many drinks to patrons. The elites are fanatics. That’s why they treat us like cockroaches in airports, stadiums, and anywhere else they have to co-mingle with us proles.

And since everything offends them except real crime (which they are protected from) our prisons are full of people convicted of trifling offenses.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 9:30:01 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: RC51

the diff with alcohol is that it can be used responsibly. a person can have some, and not become drunk.

you can’t use crack responsibly. you cant use meth responsibly. can’ t use heroin responsibly. people don’ t take drugs in such an amount as NOT to get high. that’s ALWAYS the goal when one takes any illegal drug. further one can drink alcohol and not feel like the next time they have to drink more. with the above drugs that is not true. they have to take more to get to the same high as the brain needs more as it gets damaged.

addicts may remain FUNCTIONAL in areas of their life for awhile but eventually they can’ t. in contrast most people who drink do not become alcoholics and remain normal functional people in all areas of their life. people on illegal drugs get hooked and destroy their lives because the drug takes over everything. the vast majority of regular drinkers of alcohol do not destroy their lives with alcohol.

if you cant understand te difference you can’t see the truth in front of you.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 9:38:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Luke21

ummmm.....

i am an average guy, and i don’t want you or anyone else drunk or high running into my car either or mowing me down on the sidewalk. or breaking into my home trying to steal stuff to sell to support their habit. or robbing me on the street for money to buy their drugs.

i guess that might be too much to ask for you who want to get drunk or high and violate my rights in the process.


28 posted on 03/25/2014 9:43:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Have you considered the fact that some, at least, of the effects you attibute to illegal drugs, are the result of illegal not the result of the drug? Define people to be criminals, push the cost of their intoxicant sky high with the black-market premium that gets higher the more ruthlessly the prohibition is enforced, and the users will be more likely to commit crimes. How many people commit robberies to feed their alcohol habit? Surprisingly few. Of course, there are bar fights with alcohol-fueled assaults and occasionally murders, but somehow we noticed that Prohibition was a lousy idea.

On your theory, 19th century America and Britain should have been awash with theft, robbery, burglary and assault to feed all the laudanum users habits, but somehow, they weren't, perhaps because laudanum (and other opiates and cocaine and marijuana) were all perfectly legal until the "Progressives" (remember them, we don't like them here at FR -- enemies of freedom, the source of all manner of baleful ideas for social engineering) decided to improve society's morals by banning them.

29 posted on 03/25/2014 9:45:04 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

just admit you want to take illegal drugs an/or sell them. that’s the only reason you want this. you are willing to overlook vast numbers of people who take them get hooked and destroy their lives and others through crime and robbing the people that love them of the person they were, because YOU want to take one or more illegal drugs. and/or sell them.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 9:50:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Have you considered the fact that some, at least, of the effects you attibute to illegal drugs, are the result of illegal not the result of the drug?


That is exactly right, i think there is a limit to how far you can push and control people until it starts backfiring.

I don,t drink but i do smoke and with all of the sin tax on cigarettes i have to wonder if some of the younger people might steal to buy them.

I don,t like thieves so i wish the communist government we have would quit producing them, and i wish all of the Communists who votes them in would go to Cuba.

I am not up on history that much but have heard stories of 17th and 18th century England where even many of the clergy in the Churches closed their eyes to much that people did because of the high taxes and stupid regulations.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 10:32:55 PM PDT by ravenwolf (ost void of pend)
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To: RC51

Tens of thousands of lawyers, courts, cops, jails, judges have built careers around this and they all get paid.

It’s big business.


32 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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