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Widow trying to sell family home of 40 years finds she doesn't own $1.2 million property after husba
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 1, 2014 | Jessica Jerreat

Posted on 04/01/2014 5:49:30 PM PDT by kiryandil

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To: CaptainK

I advocate that the local governmental taxing entities drop the pretense that the peasants own their homes, along with dropping the language in their bills and notices.

It’s THEIRS, so why don’t they just come clean? For example, if you want to make changes to THEIR property, you have to get THEIR permission (permits).


21 posted on 04/01/2014 6:08:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Property taxes are only 30-40 yrs old in this country?

Do you know who owned what is now Arlington National Cemetary before the Feds owned it and how they came into possession of it?

(It was taken from Gen. Robert E Lee for failure to pay taxes).


22 posted on 04/01/2014 6:10:51 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: CaptainK

Where I live, the tax collector encourages anyone who falls behind or is in danger of falling behind to contact him and work out the problem. He told me that he would rather work out a payment schedule or some other solution than go through the hassle and paperwork of collection, liens and what not.


23 posted on 04/01/2014 6:12:01 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: CaptainK

Typically at the beginning of year three of delinquent taxes they will send you a registered letter, which includes a payment schedule for the past due amounts plus the current balance due.

Also, the county will reduce the assessment on the property with each delinquency, such that the amount owed (at the end of three consecutive delinquencies) and the assessed value are the same, such that the value of the property when sold will cover the arrears and no amount is due the property registrant.

It is peculiar that they sold the arrears amounts for a few thousand, rather than move to foreclosure. This smells like in inside job from the county clerk’s office and the buyer of the arrearage.


24 posted on 04/01/2014 6:12:39 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: kiryandil
So you don't have locally collected property taxes. Wow! How does the local government run? Does it depend on a sales tax or income tax?

If not, does that mean that most of your taxes go to the state and the feds?

If so, doesn't that mean that most of the decisions about what you can and cannot do are decided at the state and federal level?

You may have lucked out in that the state and the feds don't care about what happens in your neck of the woods, but they will eventually. And wouldn't it have been better all along if your local government collected most of the tax dollars you had to spend, and your local government made most of the decision about what you can and cannot do?

Or would you prefer to leave those decisions up to the state and the feds who are almost impossible to reason with?

25 posted on 04/01/2014 6:13:43 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: kiryandil; Kathy in Alaska

Best ask an Alaska local.

A few years ago, remote land could go $2000 an acre. Things like roads, utilities and water maybe a long way away, and mineral rights and such may not be included.


26 posted on 04/01/2014 6:14:27 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Property taxes are only 30-40 yrs old in this country?

Most of the states made an organized effort to pass draconian tax lien forfeiture laws in the last 30-40 years. You used to be able to flip them off until you died in a lot of states, then they'd take the money out of the estate.

No longer. I think in my state, it's like 18 months before they smack you with the BIG penalty, and the forfeiture letter.

27 posted on 04/01/2014 6:15:55 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I would prefer not to rent my land that I paid off completely years ago.


28 posted on 04/01/2014 6:17:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SkyPilot

1.2 million for that house on Long Island? Absolutely!

The taxes are probably 20k a year too!

Crazy. No wonder the young kids can’t afford to stay and live near their parents.


29 posted on 04/01/2014 6:17:22 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Moonman62

Long Island’s Nassau County is one of the highest property taxes ripoff in the nation. Its a crime that any jurisdiction can seize properties on tax defaults. At the very least they should give the widow a fair market value for her home less any outstanding bills owed.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 6:21:41 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
(It [Arlington] was taken from Gen. Robert E Lee for failure to pay taxes).

LOL! The story is a FANTASTIC example of government rapine and pillage.

They got it back, BTW - after the government got its peepee whacked over its thieving. But they sold it to .gov for a nice chunk of change...

31 posted on 04/01/2014 6:22:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

It was illegally seized and returned to Lee’s son after the Civil War. He sold it back to the government for $150,000.


32 posted on 04/01/2014 6:24:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: kiryandil

The Feds didnt follow due process, which means there is a process for taking for failure to pay property taxes.

My point is that prop taxes are nothing new in the US.

In some states, you would have to list all your personal belongings yearly and pay a tax on them. I dont know if any states still do that.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 6:24:14 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: tflabo
At the very least they should give the widow a fair market value for her home less any outstanding bills owed.

It's rare to find much empathy in armed robbers...

34 posted on 04/01/2014 6:24:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: headstamp 2

I hate vultures who buy at those sales from people like that widow. I let it happen to me years ago but knew I was delinquent and the consequences. Luckily I got enough to redeem my property.


35 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:03 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: SkyPilot

Even for New York, that’s pretty extreme for that thing................................... Put that house up for sale in Silicon Valley and it would be close to 3 Million. there are many estate homes where this one is located.


36 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:36 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: kiryandil

It’s rare to find much empathy in armed robbers... ................. even more so with unarmed Laywers.


37 posted on 04/01/2014 6:26:53 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
My point is that prop taxes are nothing new in the US.

My point is, you used to have a choice, not so long ago. Now, you're just renting.

Don't defend the indefensible.

In some states, you would have to list all your personal belongings yearly and pay a tax on them. I dont know if any states still do that.

Virginia itself was a prime example of that. I think they did away with it in the last decade or two.

38 posted on 04/01/2014 6:27:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Bringbackthedraft

LAWYERS!!!!


39 posted on 04/01/2014 6:27:34 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: kiryandil

A Tax on Property is a Tax on Liberty.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 6:28:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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