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1 posted on 04/11/2014 8:46:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What matters more is that you actually have some reason for being there. Most kids don’t.


2 posted on 04/11/2014 8:50:31 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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Maybe someone can explain the difference between causation and correlation to these college grads.


3 posted on 04/11/2014 8:55:05 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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It won’t be long before all new jobs are government jobs. The degrees will all count the same.


4 posted on 04/11/2014 8:57:23 PM PDT by boycott
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I would return my degree and get my money back. My generation was brainwashed into thinking that a degree=success. I do fine financially as my career does not require a degree but when I tried to go further, when I needed it to take me further my BS/BM degree was useless. I would like to see people that run universities in front of Congress under oath to answer for price gouging.

BS/BM is exactly what I got.


5 posted on 04/11/2014 9:00:49 PM PDT by TheArizona
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It Doesn’t Matter Where You Go to College: It just matters that you go.

In reality this is true ... but, when it comes to your resume, yes it does. Are you a Harvard grand in medicine or a medical grad form bofunk U. ...

6 posted on 04/11/2014 9:02:55 PM PDT by doc1019
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Wife and I both had JC Associate of Arts degrees. Both retired prior to 65. Right choices. Strength in marriage. Living as much of the good life that we can help with, but may not be so readily obtainable for our respective grand-kids.


7 posted on 04/11/2014 9:06:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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Hmmm... it's actually rather funny. Time runs a piece claiming it doesn't matter where one goes to college, only that one goes, justifying this claim with assertions about future earnings in the very same week when The Economist ran a piece arguing just the opposite, and even laying out comparisons between expected earnings in excess of expected earning with only a high-school diploma as an annual return on investment over 20 years.

It turns out getting a degree from U.Virginia has the best return on investment at 17.6% per annum on your tuition dollars (the ones you or your parents pay or borrow -- they based the cost as typical actual cost after scholarship aid, not rack-rate tuition) the Ivies give a yield between 15.1% and 12.1%, while there are colleges at which one would be better off just working with the high school diploma and putting the tuition money in T-bills (places like Moorehead State College with a return on tuition of just 0.6% per annum, or even worse, UNC-Ashville with a return of -0.5% (yes, on average you lose money compared to just hittin the job market out of HS if you got there) or the nadir a tie between Fayetteville State University and Shaw University with a return on tuition investment of -10.6% per annum.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 9:07:23 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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I think it’s the area of study that really matters.


9 posted on 04/11/2014 9:08:55 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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Speak and write coherently in English and you'll own your own company if you have the ambition.

If you don't have that kind of ambition, you'll get near or to the top of whatever endeavor you undertake.

Learn enough smattering to be interesting and you'll have a ton of friends and acquaintances


Decide first and foremost ... what do you expect of your life.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 9:11:59 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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College is the new junior high school.


12 posted on 04/11/2014 9:15:09 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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It means a lot about what you take. We don’t need more liberal arts / ethnic studies types. We do need hard science and, particularly, engineers. But then that’s hard and might hurt some student’s self esteem.


13 posted on 04/11/2014 9:16:19 PM PDT by JimSEA
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If your ‘studies’ included any of the following subjects, it REALLY won't matter where you went - only where you are going. Probably to a call center or behind the counter of a fast food restaurant!

1. “The Phallus”

Occidental College. A seminar in critical theory and social justice, this class examines Sigmund Freud, phallologocentrism and the lesbian phallus.

2. “Queer Musicology”

UCLA. This course welcomes students from all disciplines to study what it calls an “unruly discourse” on the subject, understood through the works of Cole Porter, Pussy Tourette and John Cage.

3. “Taking Marx Seriously”

Amherst College. This advanced seminar for 15 students examines whether Karl Marx still matters despite the countless interpretations and applications of his ideas, or whether the world has entered a post-Marxist era.

4. “Adultery Novel”

University of Pennsylvania. Falling in the newly named “gender, culture and society” major, this course examines novels and films of adultery such as “Madame Bovary” and “The Graduate” through Marxist, Freudian and feminist lenses.

5. “Blackness”

Occidental College. Critical race theory and the idea of “post-blackness” are among the topics covered in this seminar course examining racial identity. A course on whiteness is a prerequisite.

6. “Border Crossings, Borderlands: Transnational Feminist Perspectives on Immigration”

University of Washington. This women studies department offering takes a new look at recent immigration debates in the U.S., integrating questions of race and gender while also looking at the role of the war on terror.

7. “Whiteness: The Other Side of Racism”

Mount Holyoke College. The educational studies department offers this first-year, writing-intensive seminar asking whether whiteness is “an identity, an ideology, a racialized social system,” and how it relates to racism.

8. “Native American Feminisms”

University of Michigan. The women’s studies and American culture departments offer this course on contemporary Native American feminism, including its development and its relation to struggles for land.

9. “’Mail Order Brides?’ Understanding the Philippines in Southeast Asian Context”

Johns Hopkins University. This history course — cross-listed with anthropology, political science and studies of women, gender and sexuality — is limited to 35 students and asks for an anthropology course as a prerequisite.

10. “Cyberfeminism”
Cornell University. Cornell’s art history department offers this seminar looking at art produced under the influence of feminism, post-feminism and the Internet.

11. “American Dreams/American Realities”

Duke University. Part of Duke’s Hart Leadership Program that prepares students for public service, this history course looks at American myths, from “city on the hill” to “foreign devil,” in shaping American history.

12. “Nonviolent Responses to Terrorism”

Swarthmore College. Swarthmore’s “peace and conflict studies” program offers this course that “will deconstruct ‘terrorism’ “ and “study the dynamics of cultural marginalization” while seeking alternatives to violence.

16 posted on 04/11/2014 9:27:18 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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Time.com commits a fallacy in its headline. What does that tell us about going to college?

cum hoc ergo propter hoc? I think it might be.


17 posted on 04/11/2014 9:32:18 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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I don’t know....if you go to Harvard you’re expected to get away with being an A-hole.


18 posted on 04/11/2014 9:38:41 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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Maybe for most people. Daughter has her degree from Harvey Mudd College. You can bet that carries a lot more significance with employers than University of Phoenix or some community college or even any state college. Sorry, people, depending on the area you choose to study, sometimes pedigree does matter.


22 posted on 04/11/2014 10:33:58 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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First job might be interested in the college, but certainly after that, nobody cares except for the annual begathon as an Alumnus. The reason the first job cares is because they have so much less to base their decision on.
23 posted on 04/11/2014 10:39:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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Whether your degree, for example, is from UCLA or from less prestigious Sonoma State matters far less than your academic performance and the skills you can show employers.

As a right-eyed, bushy-tailed 17-year-old Freshman at CSUC at Sonoma (as it was called at that time - it became CSU a few years later), I was surrounded by aged hippies - relicts from the 60s, actually - and liberal professors. But it isn't where you are so much as what you get out of it.

Regards,

25 posted on 04/11/2014 11:06:04 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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I knew a Personnel Administrator (term used before ‘Human Resources’) who did not pay that much attention to what schools a prospective employee graduated from, when he was hiring and firing for an aeronautics company.
If the prospective employee had all the right credentials, degrees, etc, it mattered not if he/she came from Peedunk U. in the middle of America, instead of perhaps graduating from UCLA.
His boss was totally impressed with Universities, yet rarely knew where most of the (bright) employees graduated. . .

Those from P.U. helped us get to the moon, by golly, and later, got the missiles built and tested, that were used on a fighter jet - - -


27 posted on 04/11/2014 11:18:01 PM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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Well, not according to the 20-yr ROI of various college in the US:
http://www.economist.com/node/21600212

Not all ‘big names’ give you the best ROI. Mostly because they cost a lot, so their annual return must be bigger as well.


28 posted on 04/11/2014 11:20:21 PM PDT by paudio (Liberals teach Whites about guilt and shame much better than Christian churches do...)
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It might not matter as far as your earnings go, but there is a world of difference. It makes a difference to you, to your mind, to your soul. You don’t want to end up in a junior high school with the name of a “college” pasted onto it. Don’t let everything be measured by dollars and cents. Go for the best college you can get into.

Besides, I think Time is wrong.

And I am getting to hate articles filled with statistics.


30 posted on 04/11/2014 11:27:47 PM PDT by firebrand
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