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To: familyop
“Back during the early 1980s, some Italian folks in their 80’s told me that pizza was certainly not an Italian food. “

Not correct, but somewhat almost right anyway. My grandmother's grandmother had immigrated from Italy. My grandmother still cooked Italian food the way she he had been taught by her mother and grandmother. This meant she was basically using recipes from the 1840s-1850s. And every so often she would make a “pizza pie.”

And it was HORRIBLE!

Pizza Pie was basically a way to get rid of leftovers>. It had an upper and lower crust, with whatever was left over in the middle. I absolutely hated it.

When I was in high school we had these places called Shakey’s Pizza open throughout the city. Everybody in school went on and on about how good it was. I of course thought they had to be idiots.

One day I relented and tried it. WOW. As I told my then girlfriend, “I don't know what this is because it is sure as heck not pizza pie, but it is darn good!”

What was called pizza pie in the 1800s in Italy and what was called pizza in the US in the 1960s, were two entirely different things.

61 posted on 04/15/2014 3:35:05 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

That’s funny. Similar to the origins of Cobb salad which originated in the famous old Brown Derby restaurant when the chef Cobb would take the leftovers and make a salad.


71 posted on 04/15/2014 4:07:15 PM PDT by PapaNew
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That sounds disgusting. I love pizza more than almost any other food but if I was forced to eat that type of the Chicago “pizza casserole” I would be turned off pizza for good. I remember going to a place local in town called Honey Crust Pizza that was getting rave reviews and people I knew loved it. I went in and ordered a cheese pizza with spinach. It was a deep dish style which I was unfamiliar with at that time. It comes out and I life a slice out and the middle was oozing with what I can best describe as a spinach dip filling. It was more liquid than cheese and I about hurled right then and there. To make matters worse they didn’t even have regular tea but peace tea and it was gross and it smelled like they made it using well water which has that rotten egg sulfur smell. I never went there again and good riddance as it went out of business, it sucked!


76 posted on 04/15/2014 4:24:42 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: I cannot think of a name

Thank you for the information. Very interesting. I can remember some disgusting leftovers growing up, too (English, Scottish, Dutch and many others). ;-) American food is now the greatest, thanks to the best from so many other nations.


91 posted on 04/15/2014 6:35:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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