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To: TigersEye

Of course then it all depends on how advanced the advanced culture is. There are, purely theoretical relying heavily on unobtanium, cheats around the light speed limit. If they’re THAT advanced then they could be wiping out civilizations. Of course they still have to find them, and that would still in many ways be hampered by the speed limit (don’t care how fast your ship goes, our radio waves are still “only” going speed of light), so they have to get in the zone.

Which is why I think distance is the true great filter. Every way we have of announcing our presence, or detecting somebody else’s, take a long time to get anyplace and would carry extremely post dated information. The way I think about it is to “assume” there’s another civilization out there 200 light years away growing their technology at an identical rate to us. Their very first experiments in wireless telegraphy haven’t gotten here yet. We’re using very dim flashlights for a very large room.


47 posted on 05/13/2014 3:31:28 PM PDT by discostu (Seriously, do we no longer do "phrasing"?!)
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To: discostu
Those are also reasons to discount the Killer Species Theory. To find the cultures to kill they would have to see some sign of them. If they could see it we could see it even if we were seeing it ten million years after they got to them and wiped them out. And, as you allude to, if they saw signs of a culture that society might be gone of its own accord before they could get there to wipe it out.

The Berserker Theory fails on many fronts.

More likely is the "fundamental technology’ that ends civilization" theory. The author wasted speculation on the ridiculous Glowbull Warming idea. How about the discovery of a virulent toxin, chemical or biological, that some crackpot releases and kills all life? Consider the insane things people do like kids attacking their schools, the Jim Jones cult, Muslims and so on so forth.

One intelligent but extremely psychotic nutball gets a hold of a planet-killing technology or substance and executes a plan to employ it. Perhaps neurosis is a fundamental aspect of biological life forms and sooner or later every civilization unwittingly creates the opportunity for one insane individual to wipe the whole thing out.

49 posted on 05/13/2014 3:51:02 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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