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To: wideawake
"Again, you miss the core point. It does not matter what Maine's Constitution says. Why? Because everything it says is ultimately subject to federal review."

Once again you do err, when the US accepted Maine as a state, in 1820, it accepted Maine with it's 1820 Constitution. Now there are some in the State Legislature that would like to amend both the preamble and A 1 sect 1&2, but that would take more than four years and it is only four years till the secession vote.

Look if you don't want to come to Maine and be free, that's fine, but quit trying to dissuade others who might like to be free. Like so many big govt reliant, you just keep beating and hoping to prevail with no facts or basis for fact on your side. We have been at this since 1985, do you really think you are coming up with anything new? Can you really be that vain?

167 posted on 05/26/2014 6:33:57 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
(1) What Maine's constitution says is irrelevant to the point at issue - what it said at the time of statehood or what it says today has no impact on the authority of the federal government to review that state constitution or anything enacted under it.

(2) Maine's constitution guarantees the right of Maine's citizens to alter the structure of their state government. It nowhere mentions any authority for Maine to secede from the Union. Treason is nowhere contemplated in the document.

(3) Even if treason were contemplated in the Maine constitution, its subordination to federal review would remain operative.

You are making the argument that the Maine constitution's provision for government reform can be interpreted as permitting secession from the Union. It cannot. Even if this flawed interpretation were to be pressed by Maine's judiciary, it would be rejected in federal court.

You are further arguing that Maine can unilaterally declare secession from the Union without review by the federal government. It cannot, by the plain words of the US Constitution. You are likely unaware of this, but Maine is a pure federal creation: it was formed out of Massachusetts for the express purpose of strengthening federal policy. So, whether one goes by original intent, or strict construction, or a positivist interpretation of both Maine and federal law, no act of secession by Maine can prevail.

And I don't think I'm coming up with anything new. Far from it. All this information is well known to any student of federal law.

Also, what you are proposing is not freedom - you are proposing a theocracy enforced by roaming bands of self-appointed roughnecks.

175 posted on 05/26/2014 9:46:30 AM PDT by wideawake
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