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There’s a Difference Between Misogyny and Severe Mental Illness
New York Magazine ^ | Jesse Singal

Posted on 05/28/2014 5:45:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 05/28/2014 5:45:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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He was a misanthrope, not strictly a misogynist.

He plotted to kill his half-brother because he figured him to be already more popular. He plotted to kill his male roommates. He plotted to ram his car into as many people (male and female) that he could take out before killing himself.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 5:51:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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I was surprised at how many people claimed his behavior was due to being a spoiled rich kid.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 5:52:51 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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He was spoiled, but not that, “rich.”


4 posted on 05/28/2014 5:56:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Remember the old days when if somebody was acting wacky the “men in the white coats” would come to take them away? I actually saw that one time in the 1960s when I was a little kid, them taking a guy away in a straight jacket, men in white coats just like the cliched saying. They use to even have a SONG about it, “They’re coming to take me away”.

I read a good analogy the other day: If someone is hit by a car, do they leave that person in the street for months, years even before the ambulance comes to take them away to the hospital? So why do we do that to the mentally ill? This kids own PARENTS called the COPS on him, and the cops who are not trained in mental health made the determination that he was OK, when they should have called “the men in the white coats” but I assume that kind of thing doesn’t go on anymore thanks to the ACLU.

Look how long it took the parents of that actress Amanda Bynes to get her committed, I think it took about a year of going to court over and over and over again, and meanwhile she’s attacking people, trying to burn a dog alive, talking to herself, basically living in her own world which at any time should could have very well ended up as another Elliot Rogers. THAT has got to change! It’s not the NRA, it’s how the whole mental health system is handled in this country, it SUCKS and I assume it’s going to get a hell of lot worse under Obamacare.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 6:01:55 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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How did this guy stab three men in his apartment all by himself?


6 posted on 05/28/2014 6:03:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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How did this guy stab three men in his apartment all by himself?

With a high capacity, assault style knife?

7 posted on 05/28/2014 6:15:32 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Rodger was a spoiled rotten (psychopathic) murderer. Feminists are crazy, too.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 6:20:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Part of the story is to subtly declare as insane, any 22 year old who is a virgin.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 6:28:59 PM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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I read a good analogy the other day: If someone is hit by a car, do they leave that person in the street for months, years even before the ambulance comes to take them away to the hospital? So why do we do that to the mentally ill? This kids own PARENTS called the COPS on him, and the cops who are not trained in mental health made the determination that he was OK, when they should have called “the men in the white coats” but I assume that kind of thing doesn’t go on anymore thanks to the ACLU.

As I recall, the ACLU fought to end the laws that allow for indefinite confinement of the mentally ill to hospitals. Committing them amounts to imprisoning them without trial, in ACLU liberal think. So they made it nearly impossible to commit someone. Since most mentally ill people are not violent, but only homeless and dirty, the left has no real incentive to undo the damage the ACLU did. That is because homeless people serve as evidence of the failures of capitalism and are thus a valuable propaganda tool.

Sadly, Elliott started treatment for psychosis at age 8... he obviously needed more than pills and therapy, and never got it.

10 posted on 05/28/2014 6:34:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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He also plotted to kill his step mother. The young man had severe mental health problems. He came from a broken bitter home. Those characteristics are not misogyny


11 posted on 05/28/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by Nifster
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Feminism is all about selling the meme that just being a woman places you in a perpetual state of victimhood!

When women start screeching about how they are victims because of their sex, and people point out that they are full of CRAP, the perceived victims use those negative statements and say, “See, we are being attacked!”

As far as I am concerned - feminists can go to hell!


12 posted on 05/28/2014 6:44:15 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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"While it's true that it's always a good time to talk about misogyny..."

In what universe?

13 posted on 05/28/2014 6:45:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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It’s a teachable moment. We’re learning what a bunch of morons the lefties are.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 6:52:55 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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I don’t know his parents or anything about their real situation, but one thing to bear in mind is that having a mentally ill child, especially now that it’s so hard to get treatment for him, puts a huge strain on a marriage. He was diagnosed as having some form of mental illness or problem at a very young age, and when that happens, the the life of the entire family begins to revolve around this child and there often is a lot of conflict and anger.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 6:59:13 PM PDT by livius
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How did this guy stab three men in his apartment all by himself?

I've been wondering that, too, since his ramming activities were around 9 or 9:30 pm -- lunchtime for the average adolescent; so they most likely weren't killed in their sleep, unless he did it the night before and "lived" with the bodies for half a day. It wasn't just the two roommates, but also their guest -- 3 on 1, and he was little. If he did it the same day, he must have had "help." So for now I'm thinking he offered them a spiked drink and when they passed out, he smote.

They were all foreigners, sent to the US for an education. Their poor parents.

16 posted on 05/28/2014 7:04:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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Committing them amounts to imprisoning them without trial, in ACLU liberal think. So they made it nearly impossible to commit someone. Since most mentally ill people are not violent, but only homeless and dirty, the left has no real incentive to undo the damage the ACLU did. That is because homeless people serve as evidence of the failures of capitalism and are thus a valuable propaganda tool.

Super astute.

17 posted on 05/28/2014 7:07:13 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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I’d be willing to bet that-if any of the girls who rejected him were asked-they would say they sensed something was “wrong” about him. The “wrong” was that he was mental. Their instincts were right.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 7:14:14 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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I would agree, if his father weren’t a horndog who posted naked pictures of his new young piece of wife online just as the kid was entering puberty, fought a big custody battle to insist that the child stay at his house during alternate weeks with the resentful, harsh stepmother even when the father traveled out of the country for the best part of three years on a fool’s errand (making an anti-Christian documentary that flopped) and failing to pay child support to the mother after said fool’s errand. The mother had to move from one cramped living space to another with two kids, and watch her husband make a complete fool out of himself having another baby even when he was never there for his mentally ill child and too broke to pay his obligations — but not too broke to live with Hollywood accessories, clothing, swimming pool, cars more expensive than a house, et cetera. That child never had a chance. Just like Adam Lanza, whose father checked out and married a younger model as soon as it dawned on him that he had a special needs kid on his hands. Scumbags.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 7:16:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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Ann Coulter claims in her new column that he was given medication but stopped taking it when he found out it was used to treat schizophrenia which he judged as being imperfect. I don’t know where she got that, but I wouldn’t doubt it. The dude absolutely seemed off his rocker.

I totally agree what you said about the homeless, without question the left uses them to bash capitalism and to push communism but it looks like they are slowly being confronted about the reality of the mental health issue - They just can’t keep blaming the NRA every time a nut goes psychotic and commits mass murder, people are getting wise to the connection, the real blame for it which is mental illness. I was reading the story of Seung-Hui Cho the guy who did the Virginia tech shooting, and it was just absolutely unbelievable how this kid who was completely out of his mind, who was constantly threatening people was allowed out in public! His own parents said he was possessed by a demon he was so hellbent on hurting people, threatening people, and this went on since he was a little kid! One teacher told the school she would retire unless he was kicked out of her class, and yet there he was waltzing around in public free as bird, doing anything he pleases, buying guns, making his plans. But the NRA is to blame! The NRA which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. So we got liberals scamming the people two ways: By blaming capitalism for the mentally ill, and then blaming the NRA when the mentally ill flip out.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 7:27:50 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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