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Bodies of nearly 800 babies have been found buried at a former home for unwed mothers in Ireland
Global Post ^ | 6-2-2014 | Sarah Wolfe

Posted on 06/11/2014 7:03:49 AM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 06/11/2014 7:03:49 AM PDT by Renfield
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Ireland: Historian refutes ‘septic tank’ story ... http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=24911


2 posted on 06/11/2014 7:06:22 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Renfield

The children in those pictures don’t appear malnourished.


3 posted on 06/11/2014 7:06:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Not sure if this is related but there was a movie called “sisters of Magdalene” i think, about these nuns in Ireland raising orphan girls... it was horrific!!


4 posted on 06/11/2014 7:06:57 AM PDT by wyowolf
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Forbes: Why That Story About Irish Babies In A Septic Tank Is A Hoax
5 posted on 06/11/2014 7:07:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Renfield; rbmillerjr; Lowell1775; JPX2011; NKP_Vet; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; ...

Albion Wilde said, on another thread:

I am not defending any misconduct. But I am disappointed some freepers’ open eagerness to believe the rank inaccuracy and sensationalism of the reporting, in light of the anti-Christian and anti-Catholic agenda and propaganda sweeping Western nations supported and funded by Marxists, from the One World financiers to the UN to the Islamists.

Let’s take a look at how hysterically misleading this “800 babies in a septic tank” headline is. As two earlier posts have indicated:

• There has not even been an establishment of fact that the container was a septic tank, and
• the historian on whose work this story was based said she did not characterize the container as a septic tank,

• nor did she report on any 800 remains in such a tank.

• What she did was research public records on paper of 800 child deaths at the home from various causes, over a period of many decades.

• The actual burial places of approximately 775 of those children had not been determined as of the above article, due to a lack of funding.

• There is no evidence whether Catholic rites were or were not performed.

• The eyewitnesses who discovered the container in 1975 said they saw, at most, 20 small skulls.

• The remains could have been children, could have been miscarried fetuses, could have been from the 20th century or could have been from the Potato Famine era.

Since so few forensic determinations have yet been made, the headline is obviously intended to stir up hatred and disgust, and it has worked among quite a number of freepers.


6 posted on 06/11/2014 7:08:59 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: wyowolf

Another left wing fraud bash on Catholicism and Christendom.


7 posted on 06/11/2014 7:10:23 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good catch.

I was gonna point out to Renfield that this is old news and that Forbes had debunked it.

(Although I’m not convinced Forbes is right. This may be a hoax - maybe not)


8 posted on 06/11/2014 7:10:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: narses

Since 2001, the Irish government has acknowledged that women in the Magdalene laundries were victims of abuse. However, the Irish government has resisted calls for investigation and proposals for compensation; it maintains the laundries were privately run and abuses at the laundries are outside the government’s remit.[29]


9 posted on 06/11/2014 7:13:23 AM PDT by wyowolf
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Well, at least they dropped the septic tank bit.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 7:19:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: narses

Also, at what level were these children found? I’ve learned through my interest in the finding of King Richard the Third that at what level of soil a body is buried is what determines when the person lived and died. Obviously, the closer to the surface, the later the burial. Now that they’ve knocked off the septic tank lie, I wonder if these were 19th and early 20th century children. Just a thought.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 7:24:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Renfield

Seems this hateful rubbish is still making its rounds on FR.


12 posted on 06/11/2014 7:24:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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After having read the links posted here to refute the original post, I see them as straw-man arguments, focusing on impertinent details. The fact is that hundreds of children were kept (by a church-run institution) in deplorable and inhumane conditions, and died of preventable ailments.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 7:28:20 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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Forbes: Why That Story About Irish Babies in a Septic Tank is a Hoax
14 posted on 06/11/2014 7:40:09 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I just duplicated your link. I guess I should read a few posts before posting, eh?


15 posted on 06/11/2014 7:41:02 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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The more the merrier.


16 posted on 06/11/2014 7:46:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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My goodness. They care about babies, all of a sudden? Or is this just another way to promote abortion?

Are we taking into account the general health of infants at this era in time? Infant mortality was once very high. We take the reverse for granted.

Put me down as having high suspicion that this is a catholic-bashing enterprise.

17 posted on 06/11/2014 7:47:50 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Not sure if this is related but there was a movie called “sisters of Magdalene” i think, about these nuns in Ireland raising orphan girls... it was horrific!!

Related only in the sense that it was another hateful screed against Catholic Christianity:

MYTHS OF THE MAGDALENE LAUNDRIES

18 posted on 06/11/2014 7:58:34 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Renfield

Looks like a cousins birthday party in my Gramma's basement in the 50s.

19 posted on 06/11/2014 8:00:24 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: wyowolf
Not sure if this is related but there was a movie called “sisters of Magdalene” i think, about these nuns in Ireland raising orphan girls... it was horrific!!

If it was in a movie, it must be true!

20 posted on 06/11/2014 8:03:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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