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Furor Over NYPD Choking and Beating Staten Island Man To Death [Video]
Jerusalem Post ^ | July 18 2014 | JP Staff

Posted on 07/18/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by PoloSec

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To: gaijin

What happens at 1:15?


21 posted on 07/18/2014 1:36:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gaijin

What are you referring to?


22 posted on 07/18/2014 1:38:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PoloSec

no dogs shot...hooray!


23 posted on 07/18/2014 1:40:21 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: wideawake
You almost never hear of a 400lb man having a heart attack.

What does than mean in this situation? What are you implying wideawake?

Are you suggesting the black man killed himself?

24 posted on 07/18/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: driftdiver

[ You must follow orders, that is more important and individual safety or life. /s ]

Zee forgot zat as zee agent of der state you are der state property and in order to prevent state property from being damaged zee must use excessive force to protect zee property of zee state. /s


25 posted on 07/18/2014 1:41:14 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Thanks. I didn’t know that the steroid tests had come back positive. That’s a good bit of documented fact to know.


26 posted on 07/18/2014 1:41:39 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: First_Salute
What was the original beef ?

The guy was obviously arguing his case and the two cops were just standing there, letting him blow off steam ... then the blue tornado

So ... what was the reason the guy had to state his case his case in the first place ?

27 posted on 07/18/2014 1:43:00 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: dragnet2
Are you suggesting the black man killed himself?

Not at all.

I'm sure he just woke up that morning weighing 400 pounds.

28 posted on 07/18/2014 1:46:38 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
You almost never hear of a 400lb man having a heart attack.

What does that mean in this situation? What are you implying wideawake?

Are you suggesting the black man killed himself?

Where'd ya go wideawake?

29 posted on 07/18/2014 1:47:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dalebert
even fat people have right to breathe

Yea, only white, conservative Christians do not have that right.
30 posted on 07/18/2014 1:47:37 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: wideawake

What WTF does that mean widewaake?

What are you really saying here?


31 posted on 07/18/2014 1:48:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PoloSec
Hell of a way to die, being strangled while probably having a heart attack.

The world is now safer from an untaxed cigarette seller and all cops went home safely that night.

32 posted on 07/18/2014 1:49:05 PM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: wideawake
You almost never hear of a 400lb man having a heart attack.

What WTF are you implying widewaake?

What are you really saying here?

I know a bit about this incident and have viewed the video over a dozen times...

What are you really implying?

33 posted on 07/18/2014 1:50:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Rennes Templar
Well, unless the cops had a signed affidavit, a complaint, and a warrant for his arrest... it is called kidnapping which led to the MURDER of this 43 y/o man.

Read the law, it is amazing what the *"private contractors" get away with these days.

* private contractors, uniformed thugs sometimes called law enforcement

34 posted on 07/18/2014 2:07:40 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: wideawake
You almost never hear of a 400lb man having a heart attack.

Ya watch this brutal video and comment on his weight?

Are you implying he died on the sidewalk due to being overweight? Is this what you're suggesting?

This black man was brutally murdered.

He appeared to be walking and breathing just fine prior to being choked off and choked to death here on the streets of America.

He even told them he was dying, repeatedly gasping the words he was unable to breath. And you comment on his weight? Implying it was his fault?

Are you so GD pro-government you'll defend them regardless?

I was going to ping the entire forum to this thread so they can view the video and your comments wideawake...

But I won't. I've already got your number.

35 posted on 07/18/2014 2:30:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: major-pelham

Just wait till they send in the SWAT transfat assault team.


36 posted on 07/18/2014 2:33:45 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: dragnet2
Ten more posts, please.

In one of them, explain why it is an anomaly that a 400 lb man should have a heart attack.

Perhaps it is, and perhaps he should get special privileges.

After all, if I refused to cooperate with an arrest, I know that I would be made to cooperate one way or another.

But I'm only half his weight, so maybe the law should only apply to me and not to him.

37 posted on 07/18/2014 2:51:54 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: PoloSec

Don’t know what the cops knew or what they saw him do. Was he in the gang connected to the cop killer in Jersey City, a few miles away? A cop was shot to death by the Bloods, and they made a shrine to his killer. I am sure all police have quick triggers right now, and that is to be expected.

If you don’t want to be dragged to the ground, then don’t resist arrest.

If the cops say turn around, you turn around. I don’t want to live in a society where people do not have to listen to the police. I also don’t want to be abused by police, but I did not see that here. He resisted and invited the violence, which was restrained. Frankly for his size, this was not abusive but warranted force. No blows were delivered, and the choke hold was not prolonged.

This amount of force does not kill a human being, this person had other health issues.

If it turns out the man was being wrongfully harassed by police when then that changes the situation.


38 posted on 07/18/2014 2:56:43 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Cities are going to start burning and the cops will be lighting the match.


39 posted on 07/18/2014 3:01:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dragnet2
His ethnicity seems to be an extremely important factor to you.

Why is that, exactly?

His death could just as easily have occurred if he had taken one too many flights of stairs, or if he had slipped and fallen crossing the street - he had a heart attack. He was not shot, or stabbed, or poisoned.

Had he been a healthy 200 pounder and had been forcibly made to comply with the arrest, he would be alive and complaining right now.

If he had simply acknowledged that he was being arrested and done what a rational person would do: ask what the charges are, request a lawyer, and tell a friend or family member to call a lawyer, he would be alive.

But he decided to resist arrest, even though he was well aware that he would still be taken into custody one way or another.

He didn't just arrive here from Mars. This was not his first rodeo.

40 posted on 07/18/2014 3:03:12 PM PDT by wideawake
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