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Jay Paterno’s New Book Released Early at Barnes & Noble
onward state ^ | 7-21-14 | Tim Gilbert, Kevin Horne & Jessica Tully

Posted on 07/23/2014 10:39:40 AM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: iowamark

Possible. I am more inclined now to give Paterno the benefit of the doubt.

Pedo rings don’t last unless there are some real ruthless people to keep them going.


21 posted on 07/23/2014 11:56:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: iowamark

Are you also going after Planned Parenthood officials for not reporting suspected child rape and incest?


22 posted on 07/23/2014 11:58:58 AM PDT by Eva
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To: iowamark

Joe always thought - especially towards the end of js’s career - that he wasn’t focused. He spent too much time on the second mile. He wasn’t serious.

Joe wouldn’t have given JS a glowing recommendation w/ or w/out any abuse allegations.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 12:01:36 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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I'd have reported it outside the Penn State system.
24 posted on 07/23/2014 12:02:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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I'd have reported it outside the Penn State system.

Are you sure he didn't?

I still believe there are a lot of powerful people out there who made sure the Second Mile Pedo Ring would never come to light. Apparently Ray Gricar found out, and nobody heard from him again.

25 posted on 07/23/2014 12:06:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Gricar’s disappearance has nothing to do w/ js. He prosecuted huge drug busts. It was either a hit or (more likely) a suicide, like his brother.

Think more Occam’s razor with regards to this whole saga.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 12:09:45 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: iowamark

Of you had any experience with type of issue, you would know that good people are very often in denial about the possibility that someone they know could be a pedophile because pedophilia is so far out of their own experience. They find it so abhorrent that they just can’t deal with it because it threatens to destroy the way they view the world. This reaction is much more common among older people who did not grow up with the internet and X-rated movies on TV.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 12:10:04 PM PDT by Eva
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Second Mile Pedo Ring ...

The shame here is that the 2nd mile pedo ring was never fully investigated, or maybe not investigated at all. I have had heard rumors about the 2nd mile, beyond Sandusky.

To address statements and questions earlier in this thread ... People make a lot out of Joe's power, such as he allowed Sandusky to have an office, etc. My understand of the situation is that Joe did not like Sandusky and they did not get along, this was before Sandusky retired. Joe had nothing to do with Jerry's office.

Related to Sandusky's retirement ... Sandusky wanted to spend more time working on the 2nd mile. He didn't entertain offers from other football programs because his mind was preoccupied with little boys from the 2nd mile. Coaching was incompatible with his urges.

As for Joe's famous statement, "I wish I had done more." This has been take out of context by the media. The media and Joe did not mix very well. Joe was a ardent conservative, and the media would love to prove that he was a fraud. In context, Joe's statement was, "With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."

I will not waste time defending JoePa, either you know the details of situation or you have some grudge against him. On the other hand, Penn State students (my daughter is one) and alumni (my father and I are) are not at fault. They had no proximity to Sandusky. Penn State football players are not at fault for the same reason. I can go on with just about every aspect of a huge university and the same is true.

With that said, I definitely have problems with the BOT and administration and will not defend them. I also have a problem with Louis Freeh and his half-baked report for the BOT. Time will tell and more of the truth will come out. Unfortunately, JoePa is not alive to defend himself and his reputation with many has been damaged. We can thank the media for a lot of that. Just Google, "Jerry Sandusky scandal", and see the results. Besides local media coverage, it usually labeled as the Penn State scandal. Many articles focus on JoePa, not Sandusky. Just who was the pedophile?

28 posted on 07/23/2014 12:53:11 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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Excellent post. Thanks.


29 posted on 07/23/2014 1:03:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: dfwgator
Are you sure he didn't?

According to him, he didn't.

30 posted on 07/23/2014 5:35:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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“I certainly couldn’t walk into the office and accuse a guy of something that I didn’t witness or know to be true. I didn’t know that he’d done all of that stuff. I had no idea. I just didn’t know.”

. . . . “In hindsight I wish I had done more.”

What a horrible indictment of Joe Paterno! And in his own words.
The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments
Well, at least Mr. Paterno wasn’t guilty of that, at least in this case.

Not so sure about all the quick judges around here, tho . . .


31 posted on 07/24/2014 7:10:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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