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Band director loses job amid scandal (Ohio State)
ESPN ^ | July 24, 2014 | Heather Dinich

Posted on 07/25/2014 9:23:49 AM PDT by Enterprise

The probe was prompted by the complaint of a parent, who said members must swear secrecy oaths "about objectionable traditions and customs," including members marching across the field in their underwear -- witnesses described it as the "Midnight Ramp" -- under the supervision of band directors and staff.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: nicknames; pajamas
They say that like it's a bad thing.
1 posted on 07/25/2014 9:23:49 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
That kind of stuff has been going on with TBDBITL since at least 1968. Of course back then the program was all male and surviving the hazing was a badge of honor. What was sophomoric humor back then, is not appropriate in retrospect. It is going to take more than firing the director to clean up the mess if the charges of sexual harassment / abuse are true. Of course there is irony in this as many Ohio State fans have been among the most vocal critics of the pedophile scandal at Penn State.
2 posted on 07/25/2014 9:37:32 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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From another article, this may have been going for a VERY long time!

A sexualized and intimidating culture has permeated Ohio State University's band for years, report says

"According to interviews, activities have taken place at least since 2006, but some likely go back decades. A strong alumni network has contributed to the code of secrecy."

3 posted on 07/25/2014 9:44:37 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: buckalfa

As if OSU is the only band where this is going on.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 9:46:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Enterprise

I can’t make a decision without pictures.


5 posted on 07/25/2014 9:51:38 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: dfwgator
I agree with you. It happens even at the high school level. The moral equivalency game though still does not make it right. As an alum of the Big Farm in Columbus, such news events are embarrassing, especially since TOSU tries to project a holier than thou attitude to the public.
6 posted on 07/25/2014 9:54:12 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: buckalfa

Penn State to OSU, “Welcome to our world.”


7 posted on 07/25/2014 9:55:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VerySadAmerican

Well, logic says that some “guilty” verdicts would be quickly rendered, but if the baton twirlers are included there would certainly be some “not guilty” verdicts.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 9:55:05 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

If marching across the field in underwear was good enough for bill Clinton it should be ok for them too.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 10:37:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: dfwgator

I was in marching band at Purdue and we never had any hazing even approaching this level, and certainly not under the supervision of the staff.


10 posted on 07/25/2014 10:41:24 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: buckalfa

Hazing young adults is bad enough, but that is nada compared to the multi-year cover up of a pedophile coach. Those were actual children - not young adults - that were abused! Your comparison for irony purposes is ridiculous.


11 posted on 07/25/2014 10:48:35 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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