The comments on this thread describe America today. Good is evil and evil is good. There is no right or wrong. Just do what ever feels good to you. No wonder our nation is in such a mess. Lie, cheat, steal. Who cares?
The response to the question says more about the responder than the question itself. The conflict is between head and heart. Those who want to let Pete into the hall reflect emotional thinking, while those who would keep him out are using sound reasoning and logic. Unfortunately for our country as a whole, the reason and logic is only located within a small minority on the right side of the aisle. I contend that the underlying reason for our mess is rampant emotional thinking that dominates both sides of the aisle.
Never. Ever.
He did the WORST possible thing to the game of baseball - put its reputation in jeopardy. He bet on baseball and worse, he bet on his own team.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2798498
“Pete Rose revealed Wednesday that he bet on the Reds “every night” while he was manager of the team and that the Dowd Report was correct when it said he did so.
Rose spoke Wednesday with Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann on ESPN Radio to discuss the new Pete Rose exhibit that will be on display at the Great American Ballpark as part of the Reds Hall of Fame. The exhibit will be on display for 11 months.
“I bet on my team every night. I didn’t bet on my team four nights a week. I was wrong,” Rose said.”
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As a player, he deserves first-ballot unanimous. No question. But he threw all that away with gambling as a manager, betting on his own team.
Never. Ever.
Not even after he dies.
Never.
Not a chance. Ethics matter!
It is no longer about Pete Rose. It is about the people and forces that control the Hall of Fame.
Political Correctness " Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
Is there a list of conditions for admission into the Hall of Fame?
You sound like a child who not fully realizing the ramifications of their behavior will cry out “Let Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame already”. Come on, Please. What sort of rationale is that? Baseball is first and foremost about integrity and while for the most part Baseball and all the other professional sports leagues hardly instill the sense of morality into the sport, being moral in any consistent way. Nut I’m talking about the most important aspect of baseball is not the hits, RBI’s and the entire slew of statistics as the life blood of any professional sport. Integrity, morality, sportsman like conduct must accompany, be a a part of a player’s persona if he ever wants to be considered among the best. You can not separate being a sportsman without sportsmanlike persona, which means play ball, work hard, and treat the game with the greatest reverence in the world. If someone impugns baseball, does things that dilutes the physical prowess and accomplishment that is the lifeblood of the gsme, the in which the physical prowess is the entire point of being a player but done so with dignity, pride and in anir of professional conduct. Pete Rose may be one of baseball’s greatest players from a physical standpoint but not from a moral one. To be enshrined into Baseball’s Hall of Fame requires both professional behavioor as well as proper civilized behavior.
The clown needlessly injured a Cleveland player during an all-star game -- had he bet on that game? Is that why he felt the need for a hard slide during a mid-season exhibition game?
Heck, no. The guy deserves nothing.
Darn right Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of
Fame as does Gil Hodges.
He accepted the lifetime ban. Let him serve it first, and then we can talk HOF.
Ever since Pete Rose was banned from baseball for life, I have been unable to sleep, eat properly and untold stress has been put upon me. It is not for Pete Rose’s sake that I wish for him to be put into the HOF, but for mine.
No. Make him eligible, but let the voters for the Hall decide.
Those voters are making sure that the big dopers aren’t getting in: Sosa, Bonds, Clements, etc.
They might decide the same with Rose. Then he’ll wish he were still in that select group with only Shoeless Joe Jackson. I hear more about Shoeless than I ever do about 99% of those in the HOF.
I like Rose, a lot. Idolized him as a kid and young adult.
One good reason to keep him out is that if he can’t get in then Bonds & McGwire can’t ever get in either.
Would like to see away for him to get in though.
I occupy the “don’t really give two wet craps about base-foot-socc-ockey, but follow these stories out of morbid curiosity” camp :p
Pete should have been in the Hall of Fame long ago - he’s the epitome of hustle (in the good old-fashioned, put your best effort out there fashion) and has earned his spot..