Posted on 09/05/2014 11:01:29 PM PDT by chessplayer
/johnny
I’ve seen a few. No longer fairy tale to me.
I would like to know how a Christian could believe in ghosts.
I believe in the Holy Ghost.
Does that count?
Bump
I have heard several stories from credible people. Most interesting was when the mother of a friend was in the nursing home on her death bed. The friend arrived for the day and was talking with her mom. Mom told her “Dad” had visited her just prior that morning. Dad had been dead for some time. The friend figured it was dreaming, etc.
A bit later the nurse commented on how nice it was that someone visited the mom earlier that morning - as she didn’t have many visitors. The friend couldn’t figure out who it could have been, and asked for the nurse to describe him.
The description fit the dad - and none of the other living friends or relatives that might have visited. I think there may have even been something about the “person” being there before visiting hours, but he was already in the room and they were just chatting, so the nurse figured someone else had let him in - but I’m not sure.
Sometimes.
But sometimes not. I mean, Johnny, ghosts have been part of human lore for more than 5,000 years, across all civilizations.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who've experienced psychic phenomenon, and those who haven't. I'll bet that before horses and wheels, Indians across America were skeptical of reports of a never-ending lake shore that constantly moved. Probably thought folks who'd seen the sea had been doing a little too much peyote! No such thing as a lake that big!
There is a whole 'nother level of being in terms of human consciousness and/or activity, with communication, that is weakly understood, but it exists. I don't understand it and my experiences with it have only ever been fleeting, but I know it as surely as I know gravity rules and water is wet, and all the books and experts in the world who pooh-pooh it are just so much piffle.
As chessplayer quoted, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio ..."
Remember when Jesus said something like “Do you think I’m a ghost!? Do ghost’s have bodies? See the holes in my hands.” (Or something like that).
However, it may be that the spirit is NOT the spirit of the former person (such as the “dad” in my story) - but is perhaps an angel, or demon - using the form of that person.
One of the pastors at our church explained to my wife that the Nephalim USED to have physical bodies on on earth but were destroyed in the flood. Although their spirits are still around. (Something like that anyway).
I'm not a savage from the stone age. I can 'see' with the help of instruments across 5 or 6 times the frequencies that I can see as a human.
I'll have repeatable, verifiable proof, or it isn't so, or I won't rely on that information in my normal course of life business.
/johnny
Until something happens that your precepts cannot explain. :^) And ONLY then.
/johnny
I really like that song.
I do...I do believe in spooks. Are we allowed to use that term or is waaaacist?
Great Scott!!!!
Biblically, the Witch at Endor, who raised Samuel’s spirit.
The Bible is filled with ghost stories. Jesus’ disciples thought they saw a ghost when Jesus appeared to them. Apparently the believed in ghosts.
I don’t understand how a Christian doesn’t believe in ghosts.
Then you will understand that "repeatable, verifiable proof or it isn't so" is along the lines of figuring that if ABC didn't report it, it didn't happen.
Yet folks who were there know it did, and that it wasn't reported matters zilch. You'll be there one of these days -- something will happen to you that will prove a whole 'nother mystery dimension whether you like it or not -- and you'll have no repeatable, verifiable proof except your belief in your own sanity. It will make you think twice before assuming people who see things like ghosts have all indulged in "chemically jacking with their perceptions."
My dad used to think like you. Then he had identical twin boys.
It didn't necessarily make him believe in ghosts, but it sure stopped him from thinking "that's impossible!"
Luke 16:26
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
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