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Parents' house seized after son's drug bust
cnn.com ^ | 9/8/14 | cnn

Posted on 09/15/2014 8:48:59 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

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To: EDINVA
Is this only PA? Seems it’s a case that’s appropriate to SCOTUS.

It has happened in VA.

61 posted on 09/15/2014 10:58:58 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: areukiddingme1
We choose not sell drugs out of our home...sorry, were just sort of old fashioned that way and if one of my kids was selling drugs, I would be the first to call the cops.

And your house would be confiscated - since you are so accepting of this, why don't you just turn it over to the government and save them the trouble of finding some reason just to snatch it from you.

62 posted on 09/15/2014 11:03:06 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Vendome

Okay, I guess we can mark another one down who thinks it’s okay for the government to seize property from citizens who have committed no crime, with no due process or compensation.

Good to know who you guys are around here.


63 posted on 09/15/2014 11:06:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Sue the governments behind off! There’s got to be a lawyer or group somewhere that would defend this baseless and criminal act by the government!


64 posted on 09/15/2014 11:08:47 AM PDT by vpintheak (Keep calm and Fire for Effect!)
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To: areukiddingme1

Do you think you should not lose your home if your child sells drugs out of your home just because you report her?


65 posted on 09/15/2014 11:09:53 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: areukiddingme1

There’s no collective “we” when it comes to criminal matters. The family didn’t commit the crime, the child did.

If the government wanted to confiscate the kid’s iPod, I wouldn’t have much objection (if they used proper due process). That’s not the situation we are talking about though. We are talking about the government stealing property from third parties who have not been convicted of any crime.

Which means the government could do this to any innocent person, on a whim.


66 posted on 09/15/2014 11:09:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gabz

I ‘get’ that families can be evicted for a member’s drug use/distribution, but don’t ‘get’ what Constitutional provision allows the govt to seize the property of others. Do you know if this has been tested in the federal courts, up to SCOTUS?


67 posted on 09/15/2014 11:15:57 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: lacrew
President George H W Bush, March 05, 1991 =>

Asset forfeiture laws allow us to take the ill-gotten gains of drug kingpins and use them to put more cops on the streets and more prosecutors in court.

In the last 5 years alone, the Justice Department shared over half a billion dollars in forfeited assets with State and local law enforcement.

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=2764&year=1991&month=3

68 posted on 09/15/2014 11:20:13 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Pam’s Site is back on line, Thank G-d.

Although it took a long time to load. I wonder what THAT means.


69 posted on 09/15/2014 11:30:27 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: EDINVA

Is this only PA? Seems it’s a case that’s appropriate to SCOTUS.


My thoughts, too. However, sounds like this is one of THOUSANDS of cases there for the SCOTUS.


70 posted on 09/15/2014 11:30:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: EDINVA

I have no idea if it ha ever been tested in any court, and the feds do it also, not just state and locals.


71 posted on 09/15/2014 11:31:33 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

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72 posted on 09/15/2014 11:35:24 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Boogieman

Well, guess I shouldn’t be so quick to agree with some people.

Thought he’d clean that up in subsequent posts. Didn’t.

I, for sure, do not believe in confiscation of someone’s property withoit due process.

Moreover, I totally disagree with forfeiture laws.

They are abused so geardiots can get their toys and more importantly enable the police to exact justice, through supra powers they don’t have.

they are enforcement. The Judicial system is the arbiter.

So no, I don’t like swiping someone’s stuff.

Further, it erodes personal, property and equal protection.

You and I are on the same page.


73 posted on 09/15/2014 11:45:59 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Okay, thanks for clarifying.


74 posted on 09/15/2014 5:39:22 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Of course.

Really thought the other OP was being sarcastic....alas...


75 posted on 09/15/2014 5:55:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Below is the 22-year-old piece of scum who caused his parents to lose their home.

Used to be a time when grown men used to be embarrassed to live with their mommies and daddies.


76 posted on 09/15/2014 6:11:31 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: thackney

“A month-and-a-half later police came back — this time to seize their house, forcing the Sourvelises and their children out on the street that day.”

At that point shooting the cops involved is a perfectly rational and moral act.


77 posted on 09/15/2014 6:15:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BitWielder1
This is a dream house in the suburbs. What are the odds that the neighbors complained about the out-of-control 22 year old still at home selling drugs in their neighborhood?

Those inner city neighborhoods often have a "no snitch" attitude toward the police and the neighbors don't complain until it's way out of control.

But losing the house? That's crazy. Put the brat in jail.

78 posted on 09/15/2014 6:27:33 PM PDT by grania
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The site works for me


79 posted on 09/16/2014 11:42:41 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; chris37; Cowboy Bob; thackney; Resolute Conservative; cuban leaf; kingu; ...
Update: D.A. Drops Forfeiture Cases That Drew National Attention
80 posted on 01/29/2015 1:53:14 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (!)
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