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To Vote or Not to Vote

Posted on 09/18/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT by jstaff

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To: Yosemitest

Great Video, have watched it several times, but no one seems to care. I was 9 Years old when my father took me to Vinita Oklahoma for Harry Truman’s famous Whistle Stop Tour, was close enough to him to spit on him, my how the world has changed and not for the better.


81 posted on 09/18/2014 11:16:27 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: InterceptPoint
But ... how long do you think this will take if we follow your advice?

As long as it takes for them to do something monumentally stupid, like a massive gun grab or similar. Likely wouldn't take long, if they had a landslide victory, to do something of the kind. At that point, we take our Country back.

82 posted on 09/18/2014 11:19:16 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: itsahoot
Not enough people have seen it, or know about it.
Tell everyone you know to watch it.
83 posted on 09/18/2014 11:28:36 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: jstaff

Yeah that’s a real good idea. Don’t vote because the republican candidate is not conservative enough. How many of these fair weather warriors actually work inside the Republican Party to change it? So while the government workers, grant harvesting non profits, anyone with an agenda does vote, not to mention the free s**t Army to collect their “walking around money” vote. You’ll be home crying the day after the election that things just keep getting worse.

The democrats are running things because they took what gains they could. Every inch is one step forward. Maybe the GOP doesn’t have the best candidates but by not voting why don’t you just send Obama and his ilk a free pass to the treasury.

Maybe the Republican Party should just call you up and ask who you would like them to run. We must tell them! Little by little, inch by inch it will change.

This reminds me a liberals argument when I asked why he votes for the party of corruption, He said they are all the same. I replied if they are the same why not vote Republican?


84 posted on 09/18/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: dware
As long as it takes for them to do something monumentally stupid, like a massive gun grab or similar. Likely wouldn't take long, if they had a landslide victory, to do something of the kind. At that point, we take our Country back.

You have much more faith in the intelligence of the electorate than I do. Or are you thinking that we are not going to take the country back at the ballot box. That's not for me. We had one Civil War. That was enough.

But following your logic would lead you to pull for that landslide Dem victory. I can't do that either.

85 posted on 09/18/2014 11:31:08 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: itsahoot
Remember this one from John McCain?

I do remember. What I don't remember, however, is the fence ever being built. Aren't we still talking about the fence today? Yeah, no thanks. Don't feel like being told we'll see a fence again, if we just elect the R's!

For the record, I don't advocate staying home. I do advocate voting ones conscience, which could mean voting 3rd party. I know that's what it will mean for me this year.

86 posted on 09/18/2014 11:32:50 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: InterceptPoint
Or are you thinking that we are not going to take the country back at the ballot box.

We're not going to take the country back at the ballot box if we keep voting for democrat lite candidates, as you suggest.

87 posted on 09/18/2014 11:34:56 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: InterceptPoint
This is what happens when you vote the way you suggest we should vote:

Boehner and Pelosi Unite to Pass Bill Funding Planned Parenthood, Obamacare, Syrian Revolutionaries

But hey, go GOP, right? Lol.

88 posted on 09/18/2014 11:38:04 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware
We're not going to take the country back at the ballot box if we keep voting for democrat lite candidates, as you suggest.

Is that because we won't get the needed big Dem majority if I keep voting for GOPe types just to get control of the Senate?

Should I vote for the Dems instead in order to get to the critical point?

What should I do?

89 posted on 09/18/2014 11:38:43 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: itsahoot

That may be, but they will try to part the bill and pass small portions of it over the next couple of years if we don’t clean out the Senate.

Not voting for a viable Republican candidate is simply voting for the Democrats. Just that simple.


90 posted on 09/18/2014 11:43:37 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: InterceptPoint

Personally, I’ll be voting 3rd party this year. I’ll also be writing in a couple candidate names as well. I WILL NOT be voting for the R’s, simply because they have an R next to their name. There are a couple R’s I will be voting for because I can do so in good conscience. Most, however, I will not be voting for, and I sure as heck won’t vote D


91 posted on 09/18/2014 11:44:56 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: jstaff

Pot, meet kettle...

“1. They are ignorant. They just haven’t noticed what is going on around them.

2. They are stupid. They see everything that is going on, they don’t like it, but they just don’t have the intellectual ability to figure out what is causing it.

3. They are fools. They know what is going on around them, they realize it is bad and they know what is causing it. They take an emotional approach to decision making, however, because their fav didn’t win the primary and this is their way getting back at the bully who gave them a big boo-boo.

4. They are liars. They are really playing for the other side and this is just another tool they use to discourage us from voting.”

Also, name-calling is one of the reasons I don’t vote for them. Calling me more names isn’t helping your cause.

At the end of the day, my vote is VERY important, and I will not take it lightly. Also, it’s just that — MY vote, not yours. The things these monsters are doing to my kids’ futures is unforgivable, not matter what letter follows their name. I WILL NOT support their agenda.

My advice to you (for whatever it’s worth to you) is to wake up and think about why we feel the way we do. Try looking in the mirror as you read your 4 reasons out loud...


92 posted on 09/18/2014 11:50:35 AM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: jstaff

I understand your frustration with the Republican party but another 8 years of Democrat control may bankrupt this country. This is the longest recession in our history and we have to get us out of this “Lose your job, lose your home” economy and voting for candidates who have no chance of winning is not the answer.

We need change now from the statist programs of the Democrats or we won’t have the chance in the future to do so.

102 million people are on some form of welfare currently. The feelings of those who want the perfect candidate are of very little import, the health of the country is of paramount importance.

We are looking at increasing chaos in the world because of our lack of leadership and there is the distinct possibility that we are seeing the beginnings of WWIII.

Vote Republican, this is not a normal election.


93 posted on 09/18/2014 11:55:45 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: dware
...and I sure as heck won’t vote D

Well that is a good thing.

But you are working against your goal of a major Dem screw-up if you don't vote Dem. Based on your hoped for scenario we don't get our country back until the Dems have the power to do something really stupid. It would seem to me that you would want that to occur sooner rather than later. That's the part of your plan that I don't get.

Just for the record here is My Plan:

1. Support any qualified conservative in the primaries in order to rid our party of GOPe influence. The Tea Party Strategy.

2. Hold your nose and vote for anyone with an R after their name in the General election. The Lesser of Two Evils Strategy.

3. Eat away slowly at the GOPe control of the Republican Party. The Rome Wasn't Built In a Day Strategy.

And note that My Plan is working. We have control of the House. Granted we have GOPe leadership of the House but we have Trey Gowdy running the Benghazi Committee. Would Nancy Pelosi give him that job?

And we have Ted Cruz and Mike Lee in the Senate. They are the minority but they are both very influential. That's progress.

94 posted on 09/18/2014 11:58:54 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Crazieman
"I’m writing in too. What do you say to that? Huh?"

I say you picked a very accurate name.

95 posted on 09/18/2014 12:04:26 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Hey shill, I didn’t say I was.

I hope you’re above the rear wheels so you can feel the bumps.


96 posted on 09/18/2014 12:07:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Blah blah blah blah....................


97 posted on 09/18/2014 12:08:30 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: InterceptPoint
The Lesser of Two Evils Strategy.

Again, this strategy has never worked in the past, certainly didn't work 2000-2006, and won't ever work.

98 posted on 09/18/2014 12:09:23 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: All

For the record, I never spoke against anyone voting their conscience. If anyone feels that a write-in, third party, or even a D is the better candidate, then by all means vote as you think you should. My stance is against those who advocate NOT voting on election day. I still think it is a foolish way of looking at things. To those who say we should just wait till the libs have totally screwed things up before the people will rise up, I say we’re there already. How much more screwed up can it get before there is nothing left to save?

I’m still looking for a thoughtful argument in favor of staying home that is based on rational conclusions instead on emotional braying.


99 posted on 09/18/2014 12:09:45 PM PDT by jstaff
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To: InterceptPoint
We have control of the House.

Translates to:

Boehner and Pelosi team up... (see my post 88 above)

100 posted on 09/18/2014 12:12:19 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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