Posted on 10/03/2014 4:26:27 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
NBC cameraman with Ebola flying back to US
By Chris Perez, Joe Tacopino and Post Wires
An American cameraman helping to cover the Ebola outbreak in Liberia for NBC News has tested positive for the virus and will be flown back to the United States for treatment. NBC News President Deborah Turness said Thursday the rest of the NBC News crew including medical correspondent Dr. Nancy Snyderman will be flown back to the U.S. and placed in quarantine for 21 days “in an abundance of caution.” The freelance cameraman has been working in Liberia for three years for Vice News and other media outlets, and has been covering the Ebola epidemic. He began shooting for NBC on Tuesday. The network is withholding his name at his family’s request.
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By the way, not hard to to find out that he’s the Buddhist kid of some crazy hippies, hence the name.
Appears to be an Indian name, though uncommon. Presumably Hindu.
PARAPHRASING SOCRATES, THE CDC ADMITES THAT ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EBOLA.
Preventive Medicine Expert: Obama ‘Underplaying’ Ebola Risk
on Breitbart TV 2 Oct 2014
Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet, a preventive medical specialist who practices in Texas and Arizona, who has served as Adjunct Associate Professor in Family Medicine at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, Assistant Professor in Family Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School, and Medical Director for the Women’s Program at Maryview Hospital accused the government of “underplaying the risk” of the Ebola virus, and seemed to argue that flights from countries with large Ebola outbreaks should not be allowed into the US on Thursday’s broadcast of “The Laura Ingraham Show.”
Dr. Vliet said that the government is not doing everything it could to protect Americans from the virus. Speaking on the prospect of a flight ban and the contention that only individuals who are showing symptoms of the virus can transmit it, she said “viruses mutate and change, and so to say anything with 100% certainty when you are dealing with viruses that change is medically irresponsible.” And that “no one can say with 100% certainty” when someone becomes infectious, and this is the reason why European nations have halted flights from countries like Liberia.
She further wondered why the American recently diagnosed with Ebola was not stopped, asking “why wasn’t he stopped at customs, why wasn’t he screened then, why wasn’t he quarantined as they’re doing in other countries?”
Dr. Vliet also declared that President Obama is “underplaying the risk to Americans, and I think when we have evidence going back to the Reston lab accident in Virginia a couple decades ago, of potential airborne transmission, the Canadian government has said that airborne transmission was strongly suspected [we should be more cautious].”
She reported that Canadian health advisories on the virus scrubbed their mentions of the potential for airborne transmission of the virus even though the data did not change, “I printed out the Canadian public health advisory back in June. There is a statement in their report that airborne transmission was strongly suspected based upon the 2012 Canadian study with a transmission between two species [pigs and monkeys] that were not in physical contact…I just re-printed the Canadian advisory this week, lo and behold, that statement has been taken out…the medical data did not change,” she said.
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Posted on 10/03/2014 6:22:11 AM PDT by Dqban22
So they are flying him back in a private charter plane . When Franklin Graham flew his two doctors back he paid for a special hazmat plane . I think it was Air Force . I believe he said the CDC confiscated it afterwards .
I agree with your idea of lets chill a moment and take a step back.
Having said that, what is the purpose of bring a third known Ebola case back to the US?
There is NO experimental drug available for immediate use. We used the last available dosages on the second doctor weeks ago. According to an article in The Telegraph (UK), also posted on Free Republic, ZMapp might not be available in limited quantities, “more than a few hundred treatment courses” until the Spring of 2015. That’s SEVEN MONTHS from today. What is the life expectancy of a confirmed Ebola patient?
My bottom line - returning this infected person to the US will do nothing for him. He is trading in a hospital bed in Monrovia for one in the US. While that, alone, is a significant improvement it means nothing in the near term future. It will, however, expose uninfected people in the US to Ebola thus creating potential infection chains that could (will actually) spread Ebola.
So why?
Upon review I think I now know why. Actually there will be 3,000, or more, whys. If you don’t establish in the minds of the American public that you can safely return infected people from Ebola “hot spots” opposition to the deployment of 3,000 American troops to help “fight” Ebola becomes based on medical facts not political theory.
Any troops deployed to help “fight” Ebola can not be safely returned to the CONUS until sometime late next summer. Any one who is infected by Ebola prior to June 2015 has effectively received a death sentence. “People lied and American soldiers died.” - sound familiar to anyone?
I don’t disagree with some of your hypothesis, but I do believe that being in a US hospital, even without ZMapp, with the ability to constantly monitor and provide supportive care (even IV fluids and replenishing lost nutrients) gives him a much better chance of survival.
That said, if US hospitals ever become overwhelmed in an outbreak, their supportive care ability would be substantially reduced.
Don’t disagree with this woman that there is some danger underplaying going on, but as a family practitioner, she doesn’t really have the strongest infectious disease credentials out there. Stronger than mine, for sure, but I’d rather hear from ID guys.
He didn't say that, it is the same company, using the same plane to fly patients, they specialize in it.
The military hires the plane as well.
If he is American then he would naturally come to America to be treated, like all the other Americans have been.
Why do you think that an American soldier must die if he gets infected? What is the death rate so far for Americans treated in America?
Ok , I’ll give you all that , but didn’t he say he got it through the military , and the CDC took over the plane ? Just asking .
Not that I’m aware of, the CDC can HIRE the plane, everyone and the military contracts with the company that specializes in this kind of transport.
Thanks for the link .
Responses:
1. There is no successful treatment (cure rates above 50%) for Ebola. The hand made experimental drugs ZMapp were used up treating the second American missionary Ebola patient in AUGUST 2014. There will be no significant supplies of ZMapp (a few hundred treatments) until next Spring (6 months plus). The photographer will (20%) or will not survive (80%) based solely on supportive care. Yes, provide him every advantage but understand the risks we are subjecting uninfected American citizens.
2. We are going to order 3,000 American Citizens into an Ebola “hot zone” for an as yet undefined period. Unless the live (24/7/TBD) in hazmat suits (hazmat suits are not standard issue) they will be exposed to Ebola. If Ebola is able to get inside hazmat suits being worn by experienced doctors what is the odds it will get inside hazmat suits worn by inexperienced personnel? During a DOD exercise I lived and worked in standard chemical warfare suits. They aren’t rated for prolonged exposure to chem/bio hazards.
Unless the American Citizens aren’t deployed until some time next spring the chances of being able to successfully treat them (see above) is essentially zero.
3. We have only successfully treated two, not three, American missionaries who were displaying full onset Ebola symptoms. At the end of their treatments there were no more ZMapp experimental drugs available. So right now we have a 100% success rate but there is no more ZMapp available. If there was why hasn’t the media announced Thomas Duncan already received it?
Responses to what, it wasn’t responsive to post 29.
“If he is American then he would naturally come to America to be treated, like all the other Americans have been.
Why do you think that an American soldier must die if he gets infected? What is the death rate so far for Americans treated in America?”
Nonsense.
My bottom line - returning this infected person to the US will do nothing for him. He is trading in a hospital bed in Monrovia for one in the US.
Nonsense.
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