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Apocalypse Now: Preppers Are Gearing Up for Ebola
The Daily Beast ^ | October 17, 2014 | Nina Strochlic

Posted on 10/17/2014 3:50:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s showtime for the Doomsday set. As the lethal virus crosses America’s doorstep, prep kits and gas masks are flying off shelves and fringe survivalists are going mainstream.

Jason Charles knows the exact moment he will lead his wife and five kids out of their Harlem home, pile into a car, and take off for the wilderness. It will be not long after Ebola reaches the population of New York City, hospitals overflow, and looting begins—when the first riots break out on the streets of Manhattan.

“Right now it isn’t bad, but if the first case happens in New York, you start hearing about hundreds or thousands of people getting sick and it shotguns through the city, then you want to start getting your plan together to leave,” says the 37-year-old fireman and dedicated prepper. When that happens, he says, “it’s a free fall, that’s the system breaking down.”

But the moment of evacuation is delicate. Skipping work, pulling the kids out of school—all of these decisions have lasting consequences. “If you leave too early, you look like an idiot; if you leave too late, you could be dead,” Charles says....

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ebola; newyork; obama; preppers; prepping; survival; survivalists
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1 posted on 10/17/2014 3:50:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jason Charles is assuming his travel at that point will still be free and unrestricted.


2 posted on 10/17/2014 3:52:30 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t think it will be that bad, I think it is definitely going to get worse before it gets better. However you don’t go ANYWHERE, you lock your doors, board up the windows. Sit inside and wait it out.


3 posted on 10/17/2014 3:53:58 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Black Agnes

Jason Charles, in my estimation, is a straw man, an agent provocateur, an amalgam of characters or made up out of whole cloth. It wouldn’t be the first time a journalist had used that technique.


4 posted on 10/17/2014 3:56:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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But the moment of evacuation is delicate. Skipping work, pulling the kids out of school—all of these decisions have lasting consequences. “If you leave too early, you look like an idiot; if you leave too late, you could be dead,” Charles says....

Way too many people would rather die than be thought a fool.

5 posted on 10/17/2014 3:56:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without airplane flights from Africa, the number of Ebola cases in America would be ZERO.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Look at the story of Noah...


6 posted on 10/17/2014 3:57:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Possible case about 30 miles from where I’m at.

At this time, there are no reports of increased security at area hospitals.


7 posted on 10/17/2014 3:59:25 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having lived in that area I have to agree.

But there’s the assumption that they will be allowed to cross the bridges or tunnels out of manhattan. I dispute that.


8 posted on 10/17/2014 4:00:32 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m an ER nurse in a large northern Ohio city. As such, I am watching this situation develop very closely. If it makes it to my ER, it’s time for an honest assessment of the situation and the existing plan. I won’t run away like a coward but if I observe bad/dangerous policies and someone attempts to compel me to abide by that decision/policy, I’m bugging out, immediately.


9 posted on 10/17/2014 4:02:16 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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well ... perhaps you're assuming that there are enough police and army national guard units to "lock everything down".

there mathematically are not enough if 1/10 of New York City panics over Ebola.



Obama knows this.

Ebola is "Obama's Civil War II Gift to America" ... without the nuisance of a Fort Sumpter ...


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10 posted on 10/17/2014 4:04:12 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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NYC is easier to lock down than say Houston. NYC is only reached by a few bridges and tunnels. Chokepoints. Swimming the East River is dodgy and a great way to drown. Swimming the Hudson is dodgy in winter unless you’re already healthy. And neither will really allow you to take preps with you. Or kids.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 4:07:26 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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“I’m an ER nurse in a large northern Ohio city.”

A couple of questions.

Do you have on hand, right at this moment, full PPE suits, with NO exposed area, in large supply?

Have you been trained and actually put on and taken off that suit?


12 posted on 10/17/2014 4:10:00 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBFhdeR9PE


13 posted on 10/17/2014 4:13:31 AM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush)
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For anyoneone wanting to stock up I have found The Ready Store to be a great resource.
14 posted on 10/17/2014 4:13:50 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Gadsden1st

yes and sort of.


15 posted on 10/17/2014 4:15:25 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Is a washdown with bleach solution part of the decon procedure at your hospital?


16 posted on 10/17/2014 4:16:34 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wrong culture. Americans, even in the dingiest ghetto, are not going to stuff a dying relative in a cab and drive around to various hospitals and clinics. They are not going to perform body washing or other rituals followed by home burial. There are loads and loads of ebola cases in Africa just from these alone, never mind having 1 doctor per 1 million people. Contrary to many rumors and suggestions, there is no evidence of spread from casual contact (e.g. the people in the apartment Duncan was in including Jallah's family that visited from a nearby apartment). The planeload of people with a dying victim on board did not get infected, just the woman sitting next to him.

There is also a persistent myth that the health workers should not have been infected because they were "protected". But they were not, there is clearly a possibility of spread by droplets and the costumes they were given were not airtight.

All that said, with the admin bringing in 150 new potential cases per day we are screwed. The health care system will be overrun with flu cases along with a few ebola cases and that will cause needless deaths and cost billions. The healthcare system may be destroyed and then federalized. There will be more spread from the low probabity cases like low symptom people sneezing. I would not be worried about fomite (surfaces) until people are bleeding in the street or inside cabs.

17 posted on 10/17/2014 4:21:06 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Black Agnes

That is what other hospitals were doing the last day I worked. My hospital didn’t react as quickly initially and is a day behind the other hospitals in establishing a war footing. I am, happily, off for a few days. I do not know if they have established an official buddy team/decon plan yet. I hope so. Once a patient with ebola enters the waiting room, it’s hard to say what might transpire. It would be my preference that it never make it through the front door. It might not be time to set up the tent but it’s time to get the tent ready to be set up.


18 posted on 10/17/2014 4:21:29 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Excellent that they’re doing that.

The MSF protocol has kept most of them safe for several decades worth of ebola outbreaks. Outside of a bhl4 equipped hospital/lab it’s the best that’s really possible in the real world.


19 posted on 10/17/2014 4:24:35 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>> fringe survivalists are going mainstream

Those who have prepared, will check and double check their stock.

Those just starting, will have to pay the exorbitant price, and good luck finding some gears.

Calling them 'fringe survivalists' just showed their foresight.

20 posted on 10/17/2014 4:24:51 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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