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To: Nifster

Nicotine level isn’t what matters.

Cigarette smoking leads to small vessel arterial disease (chronic) and arterial vasoconstriction (acute) which leads to decreased blood flow and therefore decreased oxygen delivery to surgical sites that are attempting to heal.

To my knowledge there is not a ‘marker’ like nicotine level that determines a patients risk level for infection post-surgery....just studies that looked at patients that DID develop a post-op infection and common factors.

Once agan, look at the root causes for actions like this (canceling surgery) and stop reacting to the news. Find the culprit...sometimes there isn’t one, but here there is.


183 posted on 11/01/2014 8:16:34 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: Ethrane; Nifster

If there is a condition of permanent arterial damage, stopping smoking won’t undo the permanent damage. Unless smoking for a few weeks would cause significant additional damage, the patient could really smoke away and not see significant new damage.

If the condition comes and goes with any smoking, i.e., stopping smoking will stop the condition, then stopping smoking before the surgery and during recovery would stop the condition and suffice to allow surgery.

I certainly could understand a request for the patient to not actually smoke during the surgery, but other than that, we can’t have it both ways, it’s either we need to stop smoking around the time of the surgery, and that’s it, or once we’ve smoked enough we can never have the surgery due to permanent damage.

Of course, there’s a third option of there possibly being a way to mitigate the damage so the surgery could be done, but we dare not mention that concept.

The medical industry is simply using denial of surgery to a) find out whether the patient smokes and b) get them to think that their smoking is the source of their health problems and that they need to stop smoking and c) in cases where they don’t want to do surgery on a particular person for any other reason, perhaps their lack of an insurance plan that pays enough to suit them, or perhaps they don’t like the patient’s political views, etc., the smoking issue gives them a convenient excuse to deny them surgery.

With all the real poisons our illustrious elites are filling us with via our food and beverages, and air near big cities, they really like having scapegoats to blame sheeple’s sicknesses on, like eating animal fats and smoking.


185 posted on 11/01/2014 11:13:11 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Ethrane; All

It is what the doctor cited. That is my point.....There is a ridiculous effort by all sorts of folks to make sure that EVERYONE follows what they want people to do. Frankly most of the studies show it isn’t the nicotine but the other additives that are doing the damage. But here is the greater question what makes you think this is going to be limited to smoking??? You won’t get an operation under Ocare because you are conservative or use too much salt or drink too much soda or own a gun....or any other such nonsense.

This is absolute control by hacing doctors bully patients into behaving the way the government wants. Don’t you get that


193 posted on 11/02/2014 5:28:57 PM PST by Nifster
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