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Gonzalez: Quarantined nurse Kaci Hickox is bravely fighting policy not based in science
New York Daily News ^ | October 31, 2014 | Juan Gonzalez

Posted on 10/31/2014 3:49:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hickox isn't backing away from challenging the home quarantine that's been forced on her in Maine. Meanwhile, Gov. Cuomo won't reveal the number of health care workers who have been subjected to the policy upon their arrival from West Africa.

Civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel has defended countless victims of government abuse over the years, including people swept up in another hysterical call for health quarantines during the early days of the AIDS epidemic.

But even the grizzled Siegel has been struck by the bravery and eloquence of Kaci Hickox, the 33-year-old nurse who telephoned him Saturday from a makeshift tent on the grounds of a New Jersey hospital to seek his legal help.

“She’s terrific, and she knows exactly what her rights are and she explains it all clearly,” Siegel said after visiting Hickox Sunday at the isolation unit where she’d been confined by Gov. Chris Christie.

Hickox was refusing to submit to a mandatory 21-day quarantine first decreed on Friday by Christie and our own Gov. Cuomo for all health care workers returning from West Africa through Port Authority airports.

After risking her life with the group Doctors Without Borders to treat Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, the last thing Hickox expected when she landed at Newark Airport was to be “treated like a criminal” in her own country, she said....

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; cuomo; ebola; epidemic; kacihickox; maine; newjersey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“…policy not based on science” means, in this case, that the science isn’t there or is unclear. Which means that the governor is absolutely correct to be very conservative in his judgment. We don’t know for sure, so we’re being extra careful.

This arrogant pea-brained nurse is playing the odds the other way. She belongs in a cell.


21 posted on 10/31/2014 4:20:56 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only “science” of 0bola is that it only takes 1 to 10 virii to infect you and the virus can exist outside a human host.


22 posted on 10/31/2014 4:21:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

There is no Science of the Climate either.


23 posted on 10/31/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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He'd Still Be In Quarantine


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24 posted on 10/31/2014 4:23:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So we can expect her at Gonzalez’ Thanksgiving table then?


25 posted on 10/31/2014 4:24:46 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Do you think perhaps it might have been more effective for this nurse to comply with the quarantine and sue the pants off of the government later.

This could set a dangerous precedent that could work two ways. First could be that NOBODY that is at risk will comply with a quarantine. Second would be that when people start running around after close exposure..the Feds will step in, as they have in Nigeria and a home quarantine won’t be allowed...it will be at a facility.

From what I have read, this doesn’t have anything to do with the Feds or Obola...at this point. It has to do with state regs.

I really don’t think you would take a chance on infecting family, friends or unsuspecting strangers...would you? It is 21 days...not 6 months.


26 posted on 10/31/2014 4:35:15 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Oliviaforever

Is she?

I could swear I saw her on the news with her boyfriend riding a bike.


27 posted on 10/31/2014 4:37:36 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

“She knew the possibility of quarantine when she went to Africa to treat people.”

Gov. Christie imposed the quarantine the same day she returned from West Africa.


28 posted on 10/31/2014 4:39:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gonzalez: Quarantined nurse Kaci Hickox is bravely fighting policy not based in science Dialectical materialism

Fixed the title. Next we will hear how science requires we supply her with 10,000 condoms a year.
29 posted on 10/31/2014 4:50:01 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought she was turned down by Doctors without borders?


30 posted on 10/31/2014 5:00:30 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I never have been a Paul supporter as I have always been a strong conservative. In the case of this nurse, I feel the state governments of New Jersey and Maine have reacted to public fear and not science and overreached their powers.

I do not want a precedence established that would provide a governor or a president, without any scientific evidence, to lock people in quarantine for diseases they do not have and are exhibiting no symptoms.


31 posted on 10/31/2014 5:08:12 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

She just came from an Ebola infested area, working with patients and her roommate there has Ebola.


32 posted on 10/31/2014 5:10:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say leave the nurse alone..........TILL WE STOP THE PLANE LOADS OF AFRICANS, HUNDREDS EVERY SINGLE DAY, LANDING IN THE USA.....LEAVE HER ALONE.


33 posted on 10/31/2014 5:13:41 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

too darned bad....this yob (the nurse) is a self centered red diaper doper baby. She is self righteous and obviously thinks she is the smartest most moral person in the universe. That kind of ego always catches up with one


34 posted on 10/31/2014 5:22:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

As an NP friend of mine points out this nurse is a class A jerk. Since she wants to rely on science then she ought to be helping out with data collection by following all the rules and staying at home so she doesn’t contaminate any of the data.


35 posted on 10/31/2014 5:24:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Oliviaforever
In the case of this nurse, I feel the state governments of New Jersey and Maine have reacted to public fear and not science and overreached their powers.

You keep mentioning "science" but you offer no specifics.

Hickox is at high risk for getting Ebola over the next 21 days. If she is not quarantined the moment that she gets it, she will become a danger to innocent people.

She needs to be quarantined, now!

36 posted on 10/31/2014 5:26:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TomasUSMC

The number of those passengers from West Africa is large. According to Airlines for America, the trade
association of American carriers, more than 10,000 people flew to the United States from Sierra Leone
from April 2013 to March 2014, and more than 17,000 flew from Liberia in the same period. Those figures
include only passengers who flew on itineraries involving an American carrier. That comes out to...27000 per year .
or....more than 2000 every month, 500 per week, 70 every single day.


37 posted on 10/31/2014 5:26:59 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC
I say leave the nurse alone..........TILL WE STOP THE PLANE LOADS OF AFRICANS, HUNDREDS EVERY SINGLE DAY, LANDING IN THE USA.....LEAVE HER ALONE.

I say we stop all the planes AND we DON'T leave her alone.

And if the feds refuse to stop the planes, the states should still not leave her alone.

38 posted on 10/31/2014 5:30:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DON’T quarantine her. Send her back to Africa.


39 posted on 10/31/2014 6:30:47 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Paladin2

The histrionic nurse who refused to obey the Ebola quarantine is another Sandra Fluke, a publicity seeker sociopath that should be put in jail rather than in quarantine.

This nurse is a typical democratic spoiled brat that in pursuit of his political agenda she puts in grave danger the health of her family and neighbors. If she had arrived in NY, where the governor is Democrat, instead of NJ, probably she would have not mounted such a disgraceful show.

While Obama disregards the Ebola menace, the Ebola panic spreads at the Defense Department.

Soldiers returning home from Ebola infested African countries are quarantine 21 days in Italy before entering U.S.

430 doctors and nurses died killed by the disease while treating Ebola patients in Africa...

Some African countries put 42 days in quarantine those coming from Ebola countries.

Why are health care workers coming from Ebola countries not forced to be at least 21 days in quarantine when they return to U.S.A. for the protection of their own families and the country?

TAKES ONE’S BREATH AWAY....:

This is mind boggling!!! Don’t you think its about time Pee Wee developed a PLAN??? This is a time for LEADERSHIP, not his constant waffling. Is it time to panic? Of course not. The time to panic is when it is too late to develop a consistent plan of action. What is the incubation time for STUPIDITY?

Lewiston Idaho veterinarian’s Letter to the Editor re: Ebola, Nails it!

The present Ebola crisis in the world is frightening. I have submitted the following letter to the editor of the Lewiston Morning Tribune:

Editor, Lewiston Morning Tribune:

If I wish to import a horse into the United States from Liberia or any African country other than Morocco, the horse needs to undergo a 60 day quarantine period at a USDA approved quarantine facility prior to mingling with the general population of horses in this country. Africa has a disease called African Horse Sickness that does not exist in the US; this is the way we have kept it out of this country.

African Horse Sickness does not cause disease in people, only horses; our government has determined that it would be devastating to the US horse industry if it were to come here.

The United States (and virtually all other countries) require a myriad of tests and often quarantine prior to bringing in a foreign animal.

I can’t legally cross state lines in the United States with a horse or cow without a health certificate signed by a USDA accredited veterinarian stating that the animal has been inspected and found free of infectious disease. In most cases blood tests are also required. In fact I can’t legally cross the Snake River and ride my horse in Idaho without a health certificate and a negative blood test for Equine Infectious Anemia.

I’m not complaining; the United States of America, the States of Idaho and Washington as well as the other 48 states take the health of our livestock very seriously, and we have a very good record at keeping foreign animal diseases out of our country. I am happy to do my part to maintain biosecurity in our animal population.

If I am a resident of Liberia incubating Ebola, to enter the United States all I need to do is present a valid visa, and lie when asked if I have been exposed to Ebola. Within hours (no quarantine required) I can be walking the streets of any city in the United States.

I feel very fortunate to live in a country that values our animals so highly.

David A. Rustebakke, DVM
Oct 29, 2014


40 posted on 10/31/2014 6:34:11 PM PDT by Dqban22
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