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Good small snake gun?
PaulR | PaulR

Posted on 11/20/2014 9:48:01 PM PST by Paul R.

Unlike many Freepers, while I'm pro 2nd Amendment, I'm no expert on guns, so I'm, going to turn to those of you who are more knowledgeable, for some advice. See further "setup" to my questions regarding a good "snake gun" below.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; gun; machete; snake
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To: Paul R.

I’m lost...what is 2-4-D?

My herper friends keep bottles of vinegar or alcohol handy in case one of their animals gets nippy.

You don’t want to pry off a valuable snake, lest you damage its teeth, so, a spritz of nasty tasting stuff makes them let go.


141 posted on 11/21/2014 10:18:10 AM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: BCR #226

Woops.

How embarrassing.

:)


142 posted on 11/21/2014 10:20:59 AM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: smokingfrog

Yea shot shells are good for snakes and rodents close up...


143 posted on 11/21/2014 10:22:14 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: BCR #226

I adore you.

:)


144 posted on 11/21/2014 10:24:49 AM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: cpdiii

My best friend lives in south-central Virginia.

She walks her dog pack on the old logging roads every day and until it’s too cold, they all must step over or around the Eastern Diamondbacks who sun themselves on the trail.
[she once saw an albino one]

She’s never had to harm one except for a single exception.

Her area has been under drought for years and food is scarce for prey and predator, alike.

A singular squirrel took up residence on her porch, having been attracted by her apple tree.

One day, she and her family came home to large rattler on the porch, who was seeking to get that squirrel, since other prey was very scarce.
She also has a small frog pond nearby so it may have been seeking water, as well.

They tried to shoo it away but it kept coming back and one day, it lunged at her son.

They hated to do it but they shot it.

I could not fault them because they had neither the equipment or expertise to bag and relocate it.

For myself, I simply make my property attractive to rat snakes.
They eat other snakes and it seems other snakes know this and stay away.

In 24 years, I have never seen rattler or copper, here, although I know for a fact there are lots of them on the ridges and mountains around me.


145 posted on 11/21/2014 10:37:20 AM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

See post #145.

She’s the one y’all are supposed to watch over if TSHTF.

:D


146 posted on 11/21/2014 10:42:54 AM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: Salamander

So the rattlers ARE here, LOL.

That stuff’s going to hit the fan down here one day...no one can convince me that Muslim compound isn’t here for a reason.

I just hope they don’t detonate a belt in the Appomattox Walmart or Kroger while your friend or I happen to be there.


147 posted on 11/21/2014 11:33:27 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Salamander

LOL ;)


148 posted on 11/21/2014 11:36:17 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
22LR shot breaks clay pigeons, dispatches small varmints effectively, and briefly immobilizes the larger catagory.

I found a YouTube video that reviews those rounds. The pellets are tiny (#12 shot,) and you have to stand within a couple feet from the snake to shoot it. This can be done only to a snake that is made from plastic :-)

A far better choice is to use a 9mm snakeshot. The advantage of that is much higher power, and the fact that a 9mm (or similar) handgun can be used for anything. A hunter can use it to dispatch a snake, to shoot wounded game, and for self-defense. A .22LR is not very good for any of that. Here is a review of a 9mm snake shot. Note that even a 9mm shell has to be fired from 5 to 10 feet away, or else you won't get much shot onto the target. Experience with a .22LR shot is understandably worse.

Still, I might want to get a box of each next time I buy something - just for a test.

149 posted on 11/21/2014 11:46:27 AM PST by Greysard
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To: Paul R.

Rohm RG10 .22, cheap.


150 posted on 11/21/2014 12:06:01 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: CatherineofAragon

That is where she shops!

I always pray for you both.

She used to work at the Balto Zoo so I trust her identification of the Diamondback.

She called the DNR about the albino one and they blew her off...said there weren’t any, there.

I had the same experience with a moth that is common here every summer but the state entomologist is so adamant that “we don’t have those here!” that he cussed me out when I sent him several photos of them hanging on the machine shop walls.

Experts.

Gotta love ‘em.

;]


151 posted on 11/21/2014 12:20:18 PM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: BCR #226

:)


152 posted on 11/21/2014 12:20:37 PM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: Salamander
2-4-D =

2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid

Think Agent Orange.

153 posted on 11/21/2014 1:57:21 PM PST by shibumi ("Walk through the fire - Fly through the smoke")
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To: BCR #226
More than likely those were water snakes which are insanely curious. If the body is submerged, it’s a water snake, if the body is floating on TOP of the water, it’s a cotton mouth or water moccasin.

Dark thick body, swimming on top of the water with the head a few inches above the water, triangular head, two fangs and a white mouth, curious and aggressive. I grew up around the swamp. Those were water moccasins.

I can get along with rattlesnakes but water moccasins are not your friend. When you are in a pirogue (a small dugout canoe) they can easily come over the side as you have just a few inches of free board. When you see one coming you do not hit it with the paddle as it might really piss them off. You put the paddle in the water in a position that the snake will swim over it. When he does you pull the paddle as hard as you can in an arc. It will throw the snake many yards away. At this point he is really pissed off but does not come back.

I loved the swamp when I was a kid. It was a kid's paradise but you need to know what you are doing. You can get hurt and worse if you are not careful.

1. Do not swim where there are alligators.
2. If you accidentally come across an alligator nest get the hell away quick. Mama gators are not nice.
3. Look out for water moccasins.
4. Know where the hell you are.
5. Tell someone where you are going.
6. Do not drink the water.
7. Bring Bug Spray, a lot.
8. Alcohol is not your friend until you are back at camp.
9. How do you get back if your motor fails on your boat?

154 posted on 11/21/2014 2:04:19 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Greysard

Greetings Greysard:

Thanks for the video links, we enjoyed. Impressed with the two yard effective snake defense range with a LCR. We’re using Federal 25 grain #12 shot 22LR, and we harvest doves at 20 yards with a rifle. We liked the 9mm Luger shot shells demo, we’re going to pick up a box tonight.

Cheers,
OLA


155 posted on 11/21/2014 2:22:11 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
What are you expecting to shoot? A 30-foot Hollywood anaconda?

Title says "small snake"

156 posted on 11/21/2014 5:19:36 PM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: Salamander

LOL

So-called expert ran full-smack into a real one. :)

I do appreciate your prayers, my friend. I need them.


157 posted on 11/21/2014 5:34:28 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: shibumi

Holy hell.

In the spirit of “kill them all”, here’s a little company for those who feel that way.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/snakes.htm

Lots in common, no?


158 posted on 11/21/2014 6:17:31 PM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

You always have them.

:)

Next summer, I’ll mail you one of my “Hell no we don’t have those, here” moths.

:)


159 posted on 11/21/2014 6:20:21 PM PST by Salamander (My soul's on fire.)
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To: Salamander
In the spirit of accuracy, 2-4-D is roughly half of Agent Orange.

The rest is 2-4-5-T, or 2-4-5-trimethoxybenzoic acid.

2-4-5-T has an impurity that occurs in manufacture called Dioxin, which is one of the deadliest carcinogenic chemicals known.

But all these herbicides and contaminants pale in comparison to the killing power exhibited by the Djinn that inspired Mad Mo to write (or babble) the Koran and its attendant Hadiths.

It could be best summarized as follows - "If you can't steal it, dominate it, screw it or eat it, then kill it."

160 posted on 11/21/2014 6:37:57 PM PST by shibumi ("Walk through the fire - Fly through the smoke")
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