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To: 9YearLurker

Like with Obamacare, the Dems completely own this and bear full responsibility for the negative consequences. There’s actually a positive in there being more illegals in that we’ll now have hard numbers to refer to in making the case that Obama and the Dems lied. Again.

The day of the photo-ID enabled fraudulent voter is coming to an end. There are now groups out there culling voter lists and lists of juror selectees who declined to serve based on not being citizens, and comparing the lists to find illegal voters. Their capabilities and technical sophistication is only going to grow.

As to being GOPe in wanting to avoid a government shutdown, I’m just applying documented past experience that letting Obamacare run, with all of it’s problems, has done much more to undermine the thing than shutting the government down last year ever did. Given the negative consequences we all know will follow this EO, I think the Obamacare example is something that can definitely be applied here.


124 posted on 11/21/2014 8:06:33 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

But we are all living under Obamacare today. We have a slowed economy, higher healthcare costs, a less efficient system—and it’s just gearing up.

Meanwhile, you GOPe types are already backing away from repealing it and only supposedly looking to amend and improve it.

This is no different than when opponents to Clinton’s impeachment argued that he could and should be prosecuted after he left office. Wasn’t going to happen and didn’t happen.

If there was a constraint on the effectiveness of a “government shutdown”—that is, the GOP majority for once acting like a majority party and exercising its Constitutional obligation to govern through the authorization of government spending—it was your usual GOPe surrender crowd.

If Obama is engaged in unconstitutional overreach—and he is—it is only because the GOP has engaged in such an abdication of its rightful use of power that Obama has had no practical opposition to acting like a monarch.


131 posted on 11/21/2014 8:25:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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