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Rape allegations against Cosby case of he said/she she she ... said and 15 women can’t all be lying
The Daily Mail ^ | November 19, 2014 | Piers Morgan

Posted on 11/21/2014 5:48:43 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So who is pimping Piers Morgan (expletive deleted) on our site?

And who is pimping the line that a person is guilty of a crime simply because of the NUMBER of people making the same allegation?

Each alleged crime must be viewed singularly.

Each alleged crime must be weighed on the merits of the specific claims.


221 posted on 11/22/2014 6:29:51 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: af_vet_1981

I don’t intend to ‘blame the victim’ - if such victim(s) exist.

I’m suggesting that women do have some responsibility to try and protect themselves; to be wise and not foolish.

After all, ‘I am Woman, Hear me Roar!’ /s

And I’m tired of hearing about women who willingly put themselves in dangerous situations, and then whine about the fact that they got hurt. That isn’t ‘Liberation’ to me; it’s just looking for some other institutional replacement for the “patriarchy” that they’ve rejected; so that they can continue being reckless and foolish.

Women are assaulted all the time, through no fault of their own. That’s tragic. But when women willingly put themselves into dodgy situations, they have to at least accept some responsibility.

I don’t think the situations you mention are the same as the women who are accusing Cosby; I don’t see the same willing ‘pattern’ to be in the man’s company on personal time, and repeatedly.

-JT


222 posted on 11/22/2014 6:37:55 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Well, I dunno...

But I was raised largely by an ol’ Granny who was born in 1890. She believed profoundly in prohibition; but she also believed that prostitution should be legalized. She felt that it served a purpose, and should be regulated and overseen, so that the women would be safe and disease-free.

That’s just an anecdote; I don’t necessarily concur.

But I wonder what the difference is between these ‘sugar-daddies’ girls’, and an old-fashioned prostitute?

-JT


224 posted on 11/22/2014 7:20:01 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

They have certainly proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Cosby was a serial adulterer.

But under current laws, that is only an issue for his wife to address.

- N


225 posted on 11/22/2014 7:20:14 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Jamestown1630

The difference between these ‘sugar girls’ and an ordinary ‘prostitute’ is a ‘legal fig leaf’ so that they don’t get shutdown by the law.

A ‘prostitute’ trades sex for money directly.

A ‘sugar girl’ trades companionship/dating for money directly. If a ‘relationship’ happens and ‘sex’ occurs, well that ‘is just natural’.

But in reality, a ‘sugar girl’ who does not perform does not remain a ‘sugar girl’ for very long.

Not having experienced either, I would expect that a fake relationship with a ‘sugar girl’ is far more emotionally rewarding than a sex act with a prostitute.

But then the break up would also be more emotionally harmful for whichever party (man or woman) who gets sucked into thinking they have a real relationship when the eventual breakup happens.

- N


226 posted on 11/22/2014 7:28:26 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

LOL, so now as you defend the drugging rapist, you have decided that you have evidence proving the DA corrupt, you really have spun out of control into crazy land.


227 posted on 11/22/2014 7:28:49 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Another LOL, as you sink into true ravings and madness.


228 posted on 11/22/2014 7:30:03 PM PST by ansel12
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To: CorporateStepsister

Conversely, I can’t believe there are Freepers that think they know all of the facts. Perhaps you do, I don’t know.

But given that the media is corrupt and reports what they choose and given that there is precedence of false allegations in abundance...I try to be careful before I jump on the bandwagon and condemn a whole group of people or a single person.

I don’t know what Cosby did...or the circumstances of his actions.

“by their fruits you will know them...”


229 posted on 11/22/2014 8:00:54 PM PST by berdie
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To: Pikachu_Dad

For a man to be an adulterer, there has to be a woman in the case - a woman who is not his wife. She’s colluding with him in a lie.

What does that say about the woman, and her integrity?

-JT


230 posted on 11/22/2014 8:05:00 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ansel12

Please cease and desist with the personal attacks and defamatory statements. They are inappropriate.


231 posted on 11/22/2014 8:15:10 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: ansel12

Please cease and desist with the personal attacks and defamatory statements. They are inappropriate.


232 posted on 11/22/2014 8:15:21 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: berdie

“by their fruits you will know them...” That passage applies to false prophets, a warning to what was coming when Jesus left the Earth. Also, it MIGHT be applied to persons posting on the Internet obsessed with the life of Bill Cosby while claiming to be ‘good Christians’. or maybe they just don’t realize they are fallen into the gossip trap.


233 posted on 11/22/2014 8:27:15 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: CorporateStepsister

See #233 ...


234 posted on 11/22/2014 8:30:05 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: ansel12

A DA’s job is simple.

If they have a case, they bring the charges. They convict the person of a crime.

If the DA dies not have a case, they do not bring the charges.

dA’s are NOT allowed to claim a person is guilty if they do not get a conviction.

To do so is corruption of their office.

This is bot some parlor game. This is a man’s life you are messing with. The punishment for rape is severe. Ten, twenty, thirty years in jail.


235 posted on 11/22/2014 10:54:10 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: MHGinTN

A song as old as time...

Joseph and Potiphar’s Wife
39 Now Joseph had been taken down to Egypt. Potiphar, an Egyptian who was one of Pharaoh’s officials, the captain of the guard, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him there.

2 The Lord was with Joseph so that he prospered, and he lived in the house of his Egyptian master. 3 When his master saw that the Lord was with him and that the Lord gave him success in everything he did, 4 Joseph found favor in his eyes and became his attendant. Potiphar put him in charge of his household, and he entrusted to his care everything he owned. 5 From the time he put him in charge of his household and of all that he owned, the Lord blessed the household of the Egyptian because of Joseph. The blessing of the Lord was on everything Potiphar had, both in the house and in the field. 6 So Potiphar left everything he had in Joseph’s care; with Joseph in charge, he did not concern himself with anything except the food he ate.

Now Joseph was well-built and handsome, 7 and after a while his master’s wife took notice of Joseph and said, “Come to bed with me!”

8 But he refused. “With me in charge,” he told her, “my master does not concern himself with anything in the house; everything he owns he has entrusted to my care. 9 No one is greater in this house than I am. My master has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do such a wicked thing and sin against God?” 10 And though she spoke to Joseph day after day, he refused to go to bed with her or even be with her.

11 One day he went into the house to attend to his duties, and none of the household servants was inside. 12 She caught him by his cloak and said, “Come to bed with me!” But he left his cloak in her hand and ran out of the house.

13 When she saw that he had left his cloak in her hand and had run out of the house, 14 she called her household servants. “Look,” she said to them, “this Hebrew has been brought to us to make sport of us! He came in here to sleep with me, but I screamed. 15 When he heard me scream for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”

16 She kept his cloak beside her until his master came home. 17 Then she told him this story: “That Hebrew slave you brought us came to me to make sport of me. 18 But as soon as I screamed for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”

19 When his master heard the story his wife told him, saying, “This is how your slave treated me,” he burned with anger. 20 Joseph’s master took him and put him in prison, the place where the king’s prisoners were confined.

But while Joseph was there in the prison, 21 the Lord was with him; he showed him kindness and granted him favor in the eyes of the prison warden. 22 So the warden put Joseph in charge of all those held in the prison, and he was made responsible for all that was done there. 23 The warden paid no attention to anything under Joseph’s care, because the Lord was with Joseph and gave him success in whatever he did.


236 posted on 11/22/2014 10:55:52 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

As a whack case, you are so crazy that you are claiming the DA in the 2004 rape case was corrupt.

You are crazy enough that it is fun reading your posts.


237 posted on 11/22/2014 11:09:01 PM PST by ansel12
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To: MHGinTN

So far his accusers are at number 17, condemn them all in the name of Christ for identifying the man who they say attacked them and in most cases drugged and raped them?


238 posted on 11/22/2014 11:12:12 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Precious rant.


239 posted on 11/22/2014 11:23:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jamestown1630

I don’t intend to ‘blame the victim’ - if such victim(s) exist.

I’m suggesting that women do have some responsibility to 
try and protect themselves; to be wise and not foolish.

After all, ‘I am Woman, Hear me Roar!’ /s

And I’m tired of hearing about women who willingly put
 themselves in dangerous situations, and then whine about
 the fact that they got hurt. That isn’t ‘Liberation’ to me;
 it’s just looking for some other institutional replacement
 for the “patriarchy” that they’ve rejected; so that they
can continue being reckless and foolish.

Women are assaulted all the time, through no fault of their
 own. That’s tragic. But when women willingly put themselves
 into dodgy situations, they have to at least accept some
 responsibility.

I don’t think the situations you mention are the same as
 the women who are accusing Cosby; I don’t see the same
 willing ‘pattern’ to be in the man’s company on personal
 time, and repeatedly.

-JT

It seems to me you have made it clear you have no sympathy for those who sin and then are victimized. Is it a sin for a woman to be an actress ? Does wearing a two piece bathing suit make her culpable for some man's lust ? Did the 36 year old mother of three raped and burned to death in Kansas the other day sin ? Did she, as you claim for the victims of Cosby, put herself at risk through some fault of her own by being in a park area near a college after dark ? Should we pass laws like the Saudis that women must always be in the company of husbands or male brethren ? Fortunately our laws, when they are enforced unlike your view, attach no blame to victms of rape.

Lust and power over a victim are the problem. The use of drugs that block someone's memory of what occurred are the reason there were multiple crimes with the same woman, sometimes underage teenagers. There is no reasonable logical nor spiritual path but to condemn such a sexual predator.

240 posted on 11/23/2014 4:36:11 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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