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Hundreds of officer-involved homicides not recorded by police, report says
Fox News ^ | December 3, 2014 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 12/04/2014 8:13:59 PM PST by Altariel

National statistics intended to track police killings show that hundreds of homicides committed by law-enforcement officers between 2007 and 2012 are not recorded by the FBI, the Wall Street Journal reports.

More than 550 police killings during that span were missing from the national count of not attributed to the law-enforcement agency involved, the paper reports. The lack of data makes it impossible to determine how many people police kill each year.

Demands for more transparency on such killings have been shoved into the spotlight after the August shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson. The Ferguson police department has only recorded one justifiable homicide between 1976 and 2012, according to statistics.

Some agencies tend to not report the killings, Bureau of Justice statistician Alexia Cooper told the journal. Nearly 800 agencies reported about 2,400 killings by police, while more than 18,000 other departments did not report any.

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KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; police
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To: Altariel

Who is this Michael Brown character the story mentions? I mean there was this guy named Unarmed Michael Brown that was recently killed. Did they mean him? Why not use his full name? Unarmed Michael Brown.


21 posted on 12/04/2014 9:45:09 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: JennysCool

That is exactly what Obama is trying to do from day one. Wake up America!


22 posted on 12/04/2014 9:47:24 PM PST by Reagan0704
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To: JennysCool
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23 posted on 12/04/2014 9:53:17 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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24 posted on 12/04/2014 9:54:54 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: FreeReign

Doncha just love that they want “transparency” in law enforcement, yet this regime gets away with hiding everything? Their double standard and hypocrisy is sickening!


25 posted on 12/04/2014 10:13:03 PM PST by Catsrus (al)
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To: Altariel

It would be helpful if the WSJ provided more details on its investigation of the “missing” 550 police homicides.

For instance, is the FBI the only organization that collects data on police shootings?

I doubt it.

In most cities, if an officer even fires his weapon, he is pulled off active duty until an official investigation is completed.

In other words, there is a huge, official, public, paper trail created whenever a police officer even tries to shoot a citizen.

Also, suing police departments is a full time legal specialty for thousands of attorneys. For instance, Johnnie Cochran made a living for 30 years suing police departments before the O.J. Simpson case walked in his door.

I’ll speculate that almost 100% of police homicides are investigated by at least one private attorney sniffing around for a big payday.

The WSJ implication that police are able to conceal police homicides is really absurd.


26 posted on 12/05/2014 12:10:15 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Altariel

Is that a police tribute to one of the people they killed?


27 posted on 12/05/2014 3:02:49 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
I’m not naive enough to think all police caused deaths are ‘good kills’. But the preponderance are. Heaven help us when we become an anarchist state.

What's an acceptable level of bad kills? Ten percent? Fifteen?

28 posted on 12/05/2014 3:05:03 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Altariel

Bull. Sh*t.


29 posted on 12/05/2014 3:26:38 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Altariel

The UCC data are pretty good. Much better than they were in the past. The point that justifiable homicides, as well as manslaughter and murder, by police cannot be teased out of the data may be valid. Possibly Vital Statistics can be used to track all killings due to the intervention of police. Vital Statistics are supposed to track cause of death, as whether suicide, homicide, accident, disease, in a very detailed manner. Not all this detail is published or accessible by query in the database. But, possibly the instances of homicide by police, to include justifiable homicide, are coded in the records and, so, upon a special inquiry can be accessed. Finally, I will state that a pretty good job can be done, nowadays, via google search. I presume almost all if not all deaths due to the intervention of law enforcement are reported by news media. I’m pretty sure you could identify the large majority of them, and construct a database on your own.


30 posted on 12/05/2014 5:15:24 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: heartwood

Thank, Heartwood, for your post. There is always a grey area. Distinguishing between a manslaughter (ranging from murder to negligence), a justifiable homicide and an accidental death is often tough. Plus, nobody wants to record a death as due to a crime when there isn’t evidence, because of our principle of presumption of innocence. But, for statistical purposes, we don’t need pristine pure data. It is important to know whether we are seeing more deaths out there due to unenforceable drug laws or to rising racial tensions, or to growing anarchy in our cities due to bad economic policies and welfare policies. Just ratcheting up law enforcement may not be the best answer. How about lowering taxes and reviving the economy, so that our young people have a bright future?


31 posted on 12/05/2014 5:23:00 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: gaijin

” The key thing is for us to go home safely
at the end of the shift.”
And you will kill innocent people to do it.

“Next time you have an emergency, just
call the ACLU.”
Oh so our choice is out of control cops, or none? Who in the world told you that you were above accountability and criticism? No one is. You guys have no concept of professionalism, or what that requires.

“We have to make split second decisions
—you’re being unfair.”No, your being unfair in your misuse of such. That defense. The cops who shot at three innocent people in the Dorner hunt said that. What is it? You think we’re just supposed to accept the pile of bodies you create, and say or question nothing? That is arrogant. And it shows what you think of our lives.

And your thin blue line spends its efforts on protecting criminal and thug cops, not people. If given the choice between Team Blue or right and wrong, you will side with Team Blue.


32 posted on 12/05/2014 6:07:32 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: JennysCool

” It’s becoming COMPLETELY obvious that
the Administration, with the help of its
media lackeys, is smearing local police
forces nationwide with the aim of creating
some monstrous federal police force to
“solve” this “problem” their propaganda
created.”

Good luck. The feds are just as guilty as the rests. As for media smearing cops? Cops do that to themselves by ignoring their problem officers.


33 posted on 12/05/2014 6:15:03 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: JennysCool

This administration is helping Hillary get into the WH by implementing what she calls the “Scorched Earth Policy”.

They are after the exact same kind of FBI files Hillary used to blackmail democrats and some republicans with during B Clinton’s impeachment.

This is the 5th time in the last 23 years we’ve seen the exact same thing.

Gates dust up in 2009.

Hillary’s dirty tricks campaign in 2007.

Clinton’s impeachment in 1998-99.

R King beating video in 1991.

There will be a call for a review of all complaints filed against police with the FBI, probably for something like the last 5 years.

There will be roughly 15-18,000 complaints (FBI files) Hillary can then use to blackmail people with.

BTW, every time Hillary has done this in the last 23 years, a terrorist attack/attempted attack/planned attack has followed.


34 posted on 12/05/2014 6:20:59 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: raybbr

No, that is a line of police cars, driving in a funeral procession. Officers are well known to come from hundreds of miles away to attend the funeral of a fallen “brother”.

As you noted, there is no such procession when they kill one of the peon class—even a child.


35 posted on 12/05/2014 7:45:35 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: gaijin
Your post was tongue in cheek, I hope.

The definition of a police state, is when the government's primary concern is for its own safety, not for the lives, liberty, and property, of the citizens it has sworn to protect.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/images/Local-Departments-Fortify-Police-State-With-Armored-Personnel-Carriers.jpg

http://www.militianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Police-State.jpg

36 posted on 12/06/2014 12:58:18 PM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

tongue embedded in and then piercing cheek, then circumnavigating the globe, per Vasco de Gama.


37 posted on 12/06/2014 1:17:05 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Got it, thanks! :-)


38 posted on 12/06/2014 1:31:34 PM PST by FBD
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