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To: WhiskeyX
Although full, 360 degree coverage was not possible, the partial PBY recon coverage that Richardson wanted and ordered was possible and likely would have detected the approaching Jap fleet. The budgetary excuses are especially flimsy in that the Navy had issued a virtual war warning and it is hard to imagine why the PBY recon missions could not have been made part and attributed for budget purposes to the ongoing training effort.

The wider case for conspiracy and cover-up by FDR and his associates is forcefully made in Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor Paperback, by Robert Stinnett, and Pearl Harbor: The Seeds and Fruits of Infamy, by Percy L. Greaves Jr. With key files still secret in US and British archives, the case remains open.

57 posted on 12/07/2014 3:41:41 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

“Although full, 360 degree coverage was not possible, the partial PBY recon coverage that Richardson wanted and ordered was possible and likely would have detected the approaching Jap fleet.”

Even the partial PBY reconnaissance would have been very problematic with respect to the resources available to sustain it more than five days, but Adm. Kimmel was found to exercise less than superior judgment and demoted in part for canceling the long range reconnaissance altogether.

“The budgetary excuses are especially flimsy in that the Navy had issued a virtual war warning and it is hard to imagine why the PBY recon missions could not have been made part and attributed for budget purposes to the ongoing training effort.”

Patwing One and Patwing Two were assigned to the Pacific Fleet and not the 14th Naval District who had no such aircraft at its disposal. This organizational deficiency and lack of resources led to a problem of having too many mission obligations and training obligations with far too few personal, aircraft, and logistics to adequately perform those assignments. Adm. Kimmel was found responsible for not doing more of what could have been done to mitigate these shortcomings. While it was not possible to conduct long range reconnaissance capable of search and destroy missions to strike the Japanese carrier task force before they could launch their own strike against Pearl Harbor, Kimmel could and should have provided much more effective short-range and/or local air patrols and early warning systems in coordination with Short’s command capable of better receiving the Japanese air strikes.

While I strongly disagree with the premise and overall conclusions of the following video, I do agree with many of the statements about the limited capabilities of the long range reconnaissance assets available to Kimmel and Short. I concur with many of the findings from the: REPORTS, FINDINGS, AND CONCLUSIONS OF ROBERTS COMMISSION, ARMY PEARL HARBOR BOARD, NAVY COURT OF INQUIRY, AND HEWITT INQUIRY, WITH ENDORSEMENTS. It’s my opinion the demotions of Kimmel and Short were very justified, despite the long range reconnaissance capabilities being severely limited.

The Washington Cover Up of a Man Wronged for 70 Years - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BH2_JexFdI

“The wider case for conspiracy and cover-up by FDR and his associates is forcefully made in Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor Paperback, by Robert Stinnett, and Pearl Harbor: The Seeds and Fruits of Infamy, by Percy L. Greaves Jr.”

Your citation and reliance upon these false conspiracy hucksters explains your failure to understand what actually happened. Stinnett invented false historical narratives to sell his book. Despite the massive and conclusive evidence to the contrary, Stinnett falsely invented the narrative claiming the Kido Butai broadcast radio messages from Etorufu because there was no other practical means whereby orders could be transmitted and acknowledged between that anchorage and the Home Islands. Many of us reminded Stinnett that his insistence that radio transmissions by the carrier task force was the only means to convey the orders and responses was obviously dead wrong, because office couriers were an ordinary means for conveying such secret messages between the Home Islands and Etorufu. Stinnett tried to deny the officer couriers could travel promptly enough between the Home Islands and Etorufu, but I reminded him about the airfield U.S. pilots used on Etorufu in their world circumnavigation flight many years earlier. Stinnet’s response was to delete these messages and block further messages to his forum.

Furthermore, I also researched and established the fact that submarine cables had been laid on the seafloor about 1886 (IIRC) to the Japanese government post office and telegrapher on Etorufu Island. My sources for that information did not indicate whether or not the submarine cables were or were not still operational in November-December 1941. To answer that question, I researched which Japanese companies originally built the submarine cable system and operated it in 1941. I discovered the same company was still in business, so I e-mailed them with an inquiry about the status of the submarine cable in November-December 1941. Surprisingly, I received a near immediate response from Japan. The company confirmed the details about the submarine cable system and the fact it was in use by the Japanese Navy at the post office on Etorufu Island for open and encrypted communications with the Home Islands. Stinnett refused to allow this evidence to be posted in his forum and continued to behave as if the evidence never existed to refute his outlandish falsehoods. Consequently, I cannot take seriously anyone who would rely upon the claims and statements of Stinnett and his fellow conspiracy hucksters who have been properly refuted time and again by credible sources.

In particular with respect to the matters involving signals intelligence and cryptography, I would refer you to the late Phil Jacobsen who was one of the senior officers involved in that effort in 1941. He has thoroughly debunked the conspiracy theorists in part with his own first hand accounts of the actual events.


67 posted on 12/09/2014 10:38:33 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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