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Posted on 12/08/2014 1:43:54 AM PST by kelly4c

I have suffered with a sleep condition called delayed sleep phase disorder for quite awhile now. No matter what I do I cannot get on a normal track. I'm going on FMLA and that will free up some time to get proper treatment for this.

The problem is that my daughter is not supportive. She doesn't like to hear about my "problems." You know, how a close relationship should provide for the acceptance of people's physical limitations? Nope not here. She is a passive-aggressive type person and for no reason tonight when I got to her house all happy to see them she went off on me and then took offense when I stood up to her verbal abuse.

Turns out she was upset that when I said I'd be there "early evening" she took that to mean around 4 but I got there at 6 pm. However instead of calmly voicing that, she brings up crap from 10 years ago AND even made stuff up.

My life has been misery, I don't even have a life anymore because I'm up all night by myself after I get home from work after midnight, and then I finally fall asleep and wake with just enough time to get ready and go to work. So I believe she resents that I don't drop by and keep my grandchild occupied like I used to a few times during the week.

It's like people only care about themselves and want me to be there for them but I'm not allowed to enjoy the benefit of empathy or understanding myself. It's all about how it affects them at times.


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To: kelly4c

If you are getting home from work around midnight, think about it...one doesn’t normally come home from work at 5 or 6pm and then go to bed! I’ve worked weird hours in my past, as did my husband for years, and sleep for me was always a problem. In his case he could crash at once and be ready for more work, in my case my body did not adjust, I just turned into a night owl. The problem is, many people like me cannot sleep well during the day, life goes on around us with yard workers, trash trucks, doorbells, etc.

Please take care of yourself first, either get more conventional hours or work on the sleep treatment with the hours you have. Be very specific when communicating with your daughter, and don’t get baited into any arguments, part of it could be exhaustion on your part which magnifies her issues and responses. She may have something overwhelming to her going on, but maybe is afraid of losing face if she shares it. Just suggestions, and best of luck to you!


21 posted on 12/08/2014 3:07:18 AM PST by Mjaye (Obama's chickens have come home to roost.)
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To: kelly4c
You poor thing :(

You're just a leaf in the wind, nobody understands that you have no control over your lot in life.

You are just locked in a cage from which you can not escape.

You poor baby :(

22 posted on 12/08/2014 3:13:21 AM PST by QuestionBoldly (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kelly4c
Could be the low frequency vibrations from the road transports.

A few weeks ago a set of windmill electric generators were designated harmful up to 6 miles away because of the low frequency air pressure vibrations.

Get a copy of Prescription for Nutritional Healing by Phyllis Balch 5th edition.

Pages 538 to542 on Insomnia.

also from here (no pun intended) http://oto2.wustl.edu/cochlea/wind.html

Stimulating “subconscious” pathways.

We know that activity in many nerves of the ear does not result in “hearing”. If the nerves from the utricle or semi-circular canals are stimulated, you may get eye movements and changes in tension of neck muscles, but you don't hear it.

The pathway of conscious hearing is very well established. It goes from the inner hair cells of the cochlea, through type I auditory nerve fibers, to the fusiform cells of the cochlear nucleus in the brain, and so on.

This pathway has been well-studied. The outer hair cells of the ear (the ones that are sensitive to infrasound) do not connect to this conscious pathway. They connect to the type II nerves (which make up 5% of the nerve fibers), then to granule cells in the brain, then to cartwheel cells and to a host of other pathways in the brain. The cartwheel cells are known to be inhibitory to hearing which may explain why the stimulation is not heard. It is known that granule cells are connected into circuits related to attention and alerting. It is not unreasonable to think that stimulation of this pathway could wake you up, and you wouldn't even hear what had actually woken you.

Symptoms: Sleep disturbance, panic, with chronic sleep deprivation leading to blood pressure elevation, memory dysfunction and more.

23 posted on 12/08/2014 3:19:59 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: ICCtheWay

I swear by benadryl. I’ve worked midnights for close to 20 years now and it’s the only thing that I’ve found that is cheap and effective with no side effects. I tried some of the prescription remedies and they seriously weirded me out.

CC


24 posted on 12/08/2014 3:26:04 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Hodie Christus Natus est!)
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To: kelly4c

Yes - with the melatonin ... it is OTC but you have to take is EXACTLY as I stated... you can google and see why ... taken at the wrong time of night — 1:00 a.m. or 2:00 or something - and you will be a zombie until 3:00 p.m. the next afternoon...

Atarax ... Smith-Kline-someone ... Hyrizine ... it is not in the class of Xanax - not strong - not mind altering -— it will help you fall asleep and feel well - even if you wake up to go to the bathroom — then go back to sleep - I take two caplets.

Prescription in the U.S. but where I am in Thailand it is OTC


25 posted on 12/08/2014 3:26:30 AM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: kelly4c

When I’m intensely working, the length of time I work (can’t get what I’m doing out of my head and I’m not tired), plus the amount of time I need to eat and sleep...

adds up to more than 24 hours !

Voila, I’m on a sort of “rotating” clock, going to sleep and waking up later each day.

Then, when I get to a good breaking point, and the work is “done”, I go back to a 24-hour schedule, because I don’t have that internal drive going on work to that level of intensity.

So me, personally, I’ve learned to not really worry about sleep so much.

I found out when I was young that if I lost sleep a few nights, I’d get very tired and eventually after a few days get a good night’s sleep.

IMHO, hope this helps to ease your concerns.


26 posted on 12/08/2014 3:32:57 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: kelly4c

Personally, IMHO, I’d not take any drugs so as to avoid problems of the drugs.


27 posted on 12/08/2014 3:34:42 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: QuestionBoldly

Lol Nope, that wasn’t dripping in saracasm or anything.

Oddly apt description of how I feel much of the time though!


28 posted on 12/08/2014 3:36:46 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

Take 2 oz. at bedtime call me in the morning. Give some to your b---h daughter too.

29 posted on 12/08/2014 3:50:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mjaye

I tell my husband that very thing but since he can come home from work at 6 pm, plop down and take a long-ish nap, and then still go to sleep for the night just 4 hours later he doesn’t get it everyone can’t do that. He’s so lucky!

What you said about daughter feeling something overwhelming and reluctant to share...I’m reminded of some cryptic comment hubby made last week (He did not elaborate and I thought he was speaking in general) You could be right. I’ll have to try and reach out to her. I just hope she’s willing to “talk” because I can’t deal with the yelling fits and misplaced anger anymore.


30 posted on 12/08/2014 3:55:47 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

I think your real problem is people not treating you the way they should. When you are loved by the people around you and they treat you with love and respect, you tend to sleep like a baby. May the Lord grant you this invaluable blessing. You’ll either sleep well or you won’t care anymore because everything else will be peaceful.


31 posted on 12/08/2014 3:59:59 AM PST by firebrand
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To: goat granny

Goat granny, that’s wonderful you have such a kind and helpful daughter! I can’t imagine what people who have no family and need help like that do, or those who are made to feel a burden. My cousin is disabled but it took almost 3 years to get approved and start receiving benefits. She can’t drive. She’s reliant on my near-elderly parents to drive her to and from appointments and stuff for the most part. Luckily she lives near them and they are happy to do it.

I wish my mother could be there when I”M old and/or start having serious health issues :) She’s a gem and the one person I know I could count on.


32 posted on 12/08/2014 4:12:59 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c
Have you tried a "sleep lamp"--some intense light at your preferred waking time, for about 20-30 minutes. Look up seasonal affective disorder. Takes a few weeks of treatment, but winter darkness sometimes makes any sleep disorder worse.

As for your daughter, humans have a very limited capacity for love, period. I suggest go to church, also.

33 posted on 12/08/2014 4:15:17 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: central_va

Haha why didn’t I think of that! Never been a drinker but now I have a legit reason to start. Hubby always has some Southern Comfort on hand. Same thing as Jack right?


34 posted on 12/08/2014 4:15:31 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“IMHO, hope this helps to ease your concerns.”

Actually it does. Anything that reaffirms the fact I won’t go bonkers or have the mother of panic attacks if I don’t get at least 6 straight hours of shut-eye each day helps. Cause that’s also a fear of mine.

God I’m a basket-case lol.


35 posted on 12/08/2014 4:20:38 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

Really sorry you’re going through all of that. I know so many people who are having major issues with their children like I have never seen before, including us. Evil is spreading over the land influencing everyone. Find comfort with your church family. If you don’t have one, get with it.


36 posted on 12/08/2014 4:23:24 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin ( Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you,)
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To: spokeshave

That’s very interesting...Saving to read tomorrow.

Thanks Spokeshave!


37 posted on 12/08/2014 4:23:43 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Personally, IMHO, I’d not take any drugs so as to avoid problems of the drugs.

A sleep problem (due to a Prednisone prescription) got me put on amyltriptylene. Seeing a GP doctor later disclosed that taking amyltriptylene was also greatly reducing my "Restless Leg Syndrome" and "peripheral neuropathy" tingling. He said "stay the course" with amyltriptylene. (But advised there are better drugs than amyltriptylene today). Benedryl and a common "Sleeping Pill" (Ambien) just made me feel yucky. The minor side effects of amyltriptylene are worth such wholesale relief plus quick and sound sleep.

The death of my father this past June was well "tolerated"—another benefit.

38 posted on 12/08/2014 4:36:33 AM PST by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: kelly4c

Oh, oops, you said you get home from work at midnight.

This is I guess “common knowledge”, I know I found it out working in and around restaurants/bars...

when you get home from work, you need a few hours to unwind.

Few people can come home from work and go right to sleep.

I notice that TV is all junk, as is most internet news now.

There’s also after work diners and bars, but - after you get home - you still need some quiet wind-down time ! IMHO. And you don’t want to be getting drunk or spending money.

FR is kind of the only game in town as far as “winding down” time goes. You can have some “conversations”, see some interesting stuff, but you’re comfortably at home.

You could do some reading on the internet in some topic you are interested in.

After a few hours of winding down, you’ll be sleepy.

If you work that late, it’s normal to sleep during the day.

IMHO, just keep FReeping, keep surfing the web.


39 posted on 12/08/2014 4:57:10 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: kelly4c

Not being a mother nor a parent..

You are combining several objectively separate issues into an inconquerable, unmanageable melange of crappy stuff. The sleep, the daughter, the loneliness, & possible depression. By so combining them they have not only their individual impact but a “group” impact based upon their perceived “swarm” effect. Because it seems so unfair that these negativities are ganging up on you.

Even if we pretend you cannot do a single thing about any one of them (which is utterly false) realize your present thinking or emoting about these things ganging up on you and your understandable feeling about them makes the situation worse because the whole pile seems worse. As a first step, I would suggest trying to mentally separate these items and put them into individual boxes. Take it apart, to the extent you can. That way, you can devise what I would call an “exit strategy” for them, one at a time. I realize I am being sort of clinical or engineer-like in my observation, but it is offered with the idea that you might find it helpful.


40 posted on 12/08/2014 5:08:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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