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Wikipedia articles are sloppier than they used to be

Posted on 12/09/2014 7:21:54 PM PST by SamAdams76

Wikipedia is much maligned as a serious reference source. However, with regard to trivial subjects, Wikipedia can be a rich source of obscure and oddball facts about subjects that most people don't care about.

For example, no respectable encyclopedia would have an article about snipe hunting but Wikipedia fails to disappoint in that regard. Or how about A Flock of Seagulls?

If you played in a garage rock band that sold 47 copies of an album (and mostly to friends), you can get an entry for that band (so long as somebody outside the band writes it). Or what about a rebellion against powerful eunuchs in second century China? Or exploding whales.

Sometimes I like to sit at the Wikipedia site and use the "random article" feature to see what kind of weird stuff I can dredge up. (Free Republic should really put that feature in so we can pull up threads from the past at random and respond to them).

However, I've noticed that many of these articles are starting to get sloppy. For instance, this article on Ska Pop. Or this one on Humphrey, 2nd Earl of Buckingham. Or Ignacio Goldstein, the famous fencer from Chile. Weak stuff.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: wikibias; wikipedia

1 posted on 12/09/2014 7:21:54 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

They don’t seem at all sloppy to me. Sloppy to me would mean poorly researched assertions leading to the likelihood of incorrect data. This just seems like a minimal job, not a sloppy one. But I would note that they used to mark such short entries as stubs.


2 posted on 12/09/2014 7:26:00 PM PST by dangus
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To: SamAdams76

I did find it interesting to learn that “sniper” comes from a “snipe hunt.”


3 posted on 12/09/2014 7:27:22 PM PST by dangus
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To: SamAdams76

Wikipedia is generally good for me, because being a lifelong obsessive reader, I know much more than my only average memory can hold, so wiki is usually good for reminding me of the precise name and dates and such.......as long as I already know the subject.

They aren’t always dependable though and sometimes are greatly flawed, and I don’t trust them for things that I am looking up cold.

It can put me back into a time or a subject, and serves as a quick memory refresher, and it usually gives a quick outline of the topic. It has it’s uses.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 7:29:48 PM PST by ansel12
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To: SamAdams76
I once wanted A Flock of Seagulls haircut.

Then I didn't.

5 posted on 12/09/2014 7:34:31 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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6 posted on 12/09/2014 7:37:50 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Flycatcher

Flock of Seagulls; used to be a singing group I think. Easy listening. Around ten years after another group existed called “Beautiful Day, their major cult hit was “White Bird”.


7 posted on 12/09/2014 7:38:16 PM PST by lee martell
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To: oblomov

“Oh, I’m sorry, did I break your concentration?”


8 posted on 12/09/2014 7:40:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Flycatcher
It's okay to get a "Flock of Seagulls" haircut when you are young.

You can always get a haircut once you grow up!


9 posted on 12/09/2014 7:51:45 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: lee martell

it was kind of a nice tune but became a stereotype for the windham hill genre that came later.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 7:55:19 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: lee martell
It's a Beautiful Day recorded "White Bird."

Love that song. The guy's voice really dominates over the gal's voice, which doesn't happen too often.

Like the name of the band too. Back when hippies were more naive idealists than intolerant statists.

11 posted on 12/09/2014 8:05:13 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SamAdams76
Zactly! Who wouldn't want to look like that?

For one day.

12 posted on 12/09/2014 8:07:13 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SamAdams76

Wikipedia seems pretty good on facts until the subject involves any type of belief or ideology.


13 posted on 12/09/2014 8:13:50 PM PST by right way right (America will reject the suck of Socialist Freedumb, one way or another.)
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To: Flycatcher

White Bird is a great song to be performed live with a good band, because of all the opportunities to improvise and embellish. The song mixes samba, classical guitar, and a very lengthy fade out or coda, leaving room for a good drummer to make his mark.


14 posted on 12/09/2014 8:30:00 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SamAdams76

Like we really need more random crap??


15 posted on 12/09/2014 8:51:18 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SamAdams76

Actually the exploding whale stories are culturally important. Our cultural identity includes exploding whales — it’s part of who we are as a society, just as we have NASCAR and Elvis and Pet Rocks and Slurpies. Only considerably smellier.


16 posted on 12/09/2014 9:29:37 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: SamAdams76
One thing I've noticed is that if one searches for info on subject X and reads a half-dozen of the results it seems 50% of them are lifted directly from Wikipedia. Inasmuch as that shows intellectual laziness or even a true shortage of info on any given subject there is also the real possibility of both accidental error and planted disinformation intended to intentionally mislead the readers. There's something jinky about an information source that is 'instantly' editable by anyone, even more so altered by someone with an agenda to fulfill--kind of like arguing with a three-year-old who must have its own way. I reckon the gist of my argument falls to what Reagan said--Trust, but verify. I did find a list of online encyclopedias, but it's from Wikipedia [I know, hypocritical me], hopefully at least, these info sources are not alterable by the public... And as always, due diligence applies to research as well, I've found it saves on mea culpas. ;)
17 posted on 12/10/2014 5:11:03 AM PST by W. (If government could truly create jobs communism would have worked the first time it was implemented.)
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To: W.
List of online encyclopedias D'oh!... Orange juice is not coffee.
18 posted on 12/10/2014 5:14:58 AM PST by W. (If government could truly create jobs communism would have worked the first time it was implemented.)
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To: dangus

Wikipedia is sloppy because there are persons who battle to deliberately introduce false/disproven information into articles even about entertainment history.

I’m even aware of persons who’ve had articles written about them going through hassles to get false stories/details removed (things may be taken out only to be re-inserted days/weeks later).

Some of the authors have NO interest in truth or accuracy.


19 posted on 12/10/2014 5:48:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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