Most of us knew that for sure on November 5, 2008.
I knew what would happen in Jan 2008, the moment I saw Obama on TV I knew, problem is no one would listen
And was confirmed during his first term. That is why in the 2012 election I tried as hard as I could to suggest that it was better to select the lesser of the two evils if Romney to some was evil. Most of us felt the second term of King Obama that he would let hell loose because he now would have nothing to lose. And here we are. Sometimes we have to use common sense to be part of our rational thinking. Sad that there were so many stone fools that could not see it. My fear they will do the same on the 2016, wait and see.