[ravenwolf]

Preterists are often falsely accused of playing fast and loose with scripture, yet the only way for Futurists to make Revelation all about us is to ignore 1:11 in its entirety, because verse 11 makes clear that these were seven churches in Asia: not America, Europe, or Australia!

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That could be true among people who follow a particular doctrine, however I am not a preterist and I agree that the Churches in Asia were there in the time of John and do not directly have anything to do with us.

I have been trying to figure out the book of revelation for almost 45 years and when it comes right down to it I am no closer than day one.

When I think I have a hold on one thing it always turns out to contradict something else and it turns out the same way in following the understanding of others.

I believe some chapters of rev are more or less in detail such as 1 through 3 are actually letters written to those Churches.

Chapters 4 through 11 were things John saw and told then chapter 12 continues with more details again as we can see that it is something which did occur.

In chapter 13 through 16 it seems to include many events over the years but in 17 it goes again in detail explain to john just what the great whore is, in which time we are now living.

19 and 20 seems to be both things both past and present and future.

Like I have already said, I don`t know but I think we just have a short time.

[editor-surveyor]

Of the Revelation, the only parts that are past are up to the 5th seal.

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All else is clearly future events as viewed by the apostle John in his visions. His descriptions of our military helicopters as scorpions with the faces of men is right on the money.

He is describing NATO attacking Israel.

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[Stingray]

“I have been trying to figure out the book of revelation for almost 45 years and when it comes right down to it I am no closer than day one.”

I was in the same boat. Every “explanation” of it I heard or read simply raised more questions, until I stopped trying to interpret it by today’s headlines and started using the gospels, history, and the old testament to interpret it.

Let me start you on your first step to really understanding it: in Matthew 24, how many “tribulations” does Jesus mention? If you only see one, as I did for years, you’re missing an important key. ;)