Posted on 01/23/2015 1:50:05 PM PST by Colofornian
Thank you. And they DID change the article. I’m absolutely positive. You can see in my posting history where I cited it. I would never post a link and then pull some quote from somewhere else.
“The prof is full of deflated air. A 2 psi drop was not possible”
He said a drop of 1 to 2 pounds was within possibilities.
He said there was a lack of information available.
By my calcs a 25 degree difference would cause a 1 psi drop.
Exactly! What a waste of emotions.
Go to the one I mentioned above. It points to the same article. There is a url with COULD HAVE and one with COULDNT HAVE that point to the same article. They changed their story.
Someone has finally framed the quagmire in an appropriate science frame work. About time!
” They changed their story.”
Suppose the story changed. OK. Then is the one now published correct or not? If it is correct, then it does not support your argument.
If it is incorrect, you have a major story. One bigger than Deflate-gate.
A 1 psi drop was not possible under the conditions that existed. Show your calculations, you’ve got mine.
With 11 of 12 balls under by 2 psi, someone obviously let the air out of the balls. Do you have another explanation?
Its a matter of proof.
The balls were deflated.
(I am intentionally exaggerating here)
How do we know who did it?
Are the players who touch the ball supposed to know what the pressure is?
Are the refs supposed to test the ball before each play?
We are blaming Brady, but is there any proof?
How do we know the Refs used a calibrated gauge? It seems to me that the pressure of the ball was consistent..
This could go on all day and night.
No equipment guy is going to talk. Unless they have video of someone putting in the needle and sucking out air, they have nothing. Circumstantial at best.
Can you see how silly this is?
Fine the Pats 25K and move on and deal with this after the season is over. Kraft will take that much out of his sock money.
It was 50 at game time
A. There’d be no psi rule to begin with because it would be too difficult to enforce.
B. This would be a very common occurrence and there would be no split among former players and other experts.
I hadn’t read that yet. What I read was that 11 of 12 balls were under-inflated. Two of the balls were 2 psi below the league minimum.
Can you please give me source for the NFL statement regarding 11 of 12 balls being 2 psi (or greater) below the minimum?
I can only tell you with absolute certainty that the quote I posted was from the same link. The professor’s conclusion has changed 180 degrees. No mention about what he originally said. I could understand if the article mentioned how he came about changing his mind. But his entire original opinion is gone. Poof.
Screenshots from now on.
“P2 = 12.5 psi * 280k / 295k = 11.9 psi.”
P2 = (12.5 + 14.7) * 280 / 295 - 14.7 = 11.1
dP = 12.5 - 11.1 = 1.4 psig
Again, you’re treating the pelting rain conditions as if they were entirely irrelevant.
I would say that the balls were deflated is a given.
Prove who did it.
Someone saying Brady is guilty because he gave a crappy presser has not seen Brady in pressers before.
Does anyone really think Belichek spent a second of time giving a crap about ball pressure. There is an awful lot to think about before a game like that. Ball pressure, if it was on the list...it wasn’t on HIS list.
My theory is that Tom brady had a talk with someone in the equipment room last summer and he told them what he wants to see in a ball. And they gave it to him.
And no one will ever prove that.
Fine them $25k, which will be appealed. And move on.
I think post #145 covers your lame apologetic...so please...don’t ever complain on fr again if a Democrat who gets “dead voters” and double voters if that candidate would have won handily anyway
” Show your calculations, you’ve got mine.”
I posted correcting your error.
The HUGE assumption here is that Brady wasn’t tossing around 11-psi footballs from Tuesday thru pre-game Sunday.
Like I said in an earlier post...if psi rules are “trivial” as you state then just become an nfl rule libertarian and advocate that the nfl and bureaucratic refs just get out of psi management...and even ball size accountability...and just leave the entire process up to the qbs...the kickers...and the coaches...at least then you’d be consistent vs jumping in at this point as an apologist for cheaters
“Someone has finally framed the quagmire in an appropriate science frame work. About time!”
With an erroneous solution.
Reiterating what the other poster said in reply. Each team brings it’s own balls to the game...a rule, mind you, that was changed at the request of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning a few years ago. It used to be that all of the balls were provided by the home team. Not so, any more.
So the issue is that balls for the Patriots didn’t measure up, and that’s why we have all of the hullabaloo that we do right now.
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