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Deflate-gate: Patriots Coach Says 'Climatic Conditions' May Have Under-Inflated Balls
ABCNews ^ | January 24, 2015 | DEAN SCHABNER and AARON KATERSKY

Posted on 01/24/2015 4:07:43 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: latina4dubya; All

regarding... “Where were the balls inflated?”

As the coach said, they practice with the balls during the week before a game. Therefore, they are inflated many days or weeks before the game itself.

The QB picks out the balls he wants to use for the game. Those are inspected by officials to be between 12.5-13.5 PSI about 2 hours before the game and returned to each team about 15 minutes before kickoff.


81 posted on 01/24/2015 8:31:19 PM PST by octex
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Nice try. The Pats footballs had dropped 2 psi from the pregame check. Even if the Colts started at 13.5, if they also dropped 2 psi "naturally" they would have tested below the legal limit. There is no natural way 11 of 12 Pats footballs dropped 2 psi in one half, while 0 of 12 Colts footballs dropped at most - being generous - 1 psi. No chance. So don't act like everyone else is ignorant and prejudiced.

Again, 11 of 12 Patriot footballs dropped at least 2 psi from the pregame check until halftime. ZERO of 12 Colts footballs did not. Same natural conditions with one difference - one set of 12 balls was on the Patriots sideline and the other set of 12 on the Colts sideline.

The Patriots artificially and intentionally deflated their footballs.
82 posted on 01/24/2015 8:31:49 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: babygene
Your right with Nitrogen, that's what I was thinking of.

It's been almost 60 years since my racing days that we used it in the tires.

Guess altzimers is setting in!

83 posted on 01/24/2015 8:34:01 PM PST by dalereed
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To: over3Owithabrain

Can you read?

The claim is that the Pats balls dropped 1 PSI from the air temperature and 1 PSI from cooling after being rubbed down by the equipment managers. So that’s only 1 PSI from temperature.

If the Colts did not prep their balls before giving them to the refs, the balls would only be expected to drop 1 PSI due to the temperature difference. So they would have dropped less, despite being exposed to the same weather.

Prove this is not the case. Tell me exactly what the pressure of the Patriots balls were before the game. Tell me what the Colts balls were pressurized to before the game, and exactly what they read afterwards. With links to these numbers.

But you can’t. You’re just making up your “facts” to suit your prejudice.


84 posted on 01/24/2015 8:42:03 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Well, can't find the exact model that those refs were using. This one looks fairly similar. 0-15 psi scale. Bleed valve. Inflation needle. - Doesn't look like the psi is in red on the NFL gage.
85 posted on 01/24/2015 9:01:01 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

So you are saying that perhaps all the Colt balls were pressured to the max allowed pressure of 13.5 psi per the teams preference.

And that their balls only dropped one PSI to the low end of the legal range?


86 posted on 01/24/2015 9:05:07 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

You are not providing fäcts. You are parroting Belichick’s excuses from his presser today. There is no “fäct” that 11 of their footballs dropped 2 psi from a mixture of rubbing and climate. I heard Belichicks whole presser, you repeating it does not make his claims “facts”. Even in your convoluted claims you got his excuse wrong. Belichick said the footballs went UP in psi from the rubbing. He was all over the place and so are you.


87 posted on 01/24/2015 9:06:36 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Pikachu_Dad

NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST
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The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”:

“Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game.

“The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Patriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information.

“The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Patriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence.

“Upon being advised of the investigation, the Patriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.”


88 posted on 01/24/2015 9:07:37 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: babygene
“Yes it is...they cheated Period.” So as an uneducated person who skipped all the science classes in H.S., this is your opinion?

I was a science major and flunked nothing...a football CANNOT lose 2# of air pressure when going from a 70 degree room to an 50 degree field..PERIOD.....and if it were possible(it's not) ALL of the balls, including those owned by the Colts would have suffered the same fate...THEY DIDN'T

89 posted on 01/24/2015 9:13:09 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: plain talk
I agree with you.

It is a goofy rule. Like the Dez Bryant “non-catch” because he didn't make a football move. But a rule none the less.

Frankly, I don't even care about the Super Bowl this year. I don't care for either team. Don't particularly like Katy Perry at half time and the commercials aren't that good anymore. Besides, I have traditionally eaten queso during the SB and can't anymore due to cholesterol. What's the point?

90 posted on 01/24/2015 9:13:14 PM PST by berdie
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"...footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated."- NFL statement

Oops Patriot apologists. The footballs didn't do their magical 2 psi drop during the second half of the game, following the re-inflation of the Pats illegal footballs. Apparently the Dr. Belichick laws of climate and science only apply to the first half of football games.
91 posted on 01/24/2015 9:17:26 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: xzins
Not necessarily. The acceptable range is 12.5 to 13.5 If the Colts had balls closer to 13.5 and they lost .5 pound of pressure, then a perfectly legal Pats ball at 12.5, would then be under.

The Patriots footballs were a full 2# underinflated....the very moment that their QB touched those balls...he knew it..He probably didn't deflate them...but he KNEW that they were soft PERIOD

92 posted on 01/24/2015 9:17:58 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
What is the rate of cooling of an NFL football?

It is inversely related to the airspeed of an unladen European swallow

93 posted on 01/24/2015 9:20:41 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: terycarl

Some people believe what they want to believe. The only logical conclusion is the Patriots balls were intentionally deflated by their side. And they know it. That is why Belichick spent 23 minutes at a presser today and a week of setting up excuses to hide it. He wouldn’t do that if they had nothing to hide he would shrug it off and give the media the finger like he usually does


94 posted on 01/24/2015 9:22:05 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: terycarl

“I was a science major and flunked nothing...a football CANNOT lose 2# of air pressure when going from a 70 degree room to an 50 degree field..PERIOD.”

Well, I don’t think so regarding your science major in grade school... First of all, we don’t know at what temp the balls were inflated. And it wasn’t 50 degrees, it was 45 degrees.

Tell me, wise one... If inflated at 70 degrees with CO2, what would the pressure be at 45 degrees? Show your work...


95 posted on 01/24/2015 9:26:01 PM PST by babygene
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To: babygene
The only problem was that they should have chosen Nitrogen instead, but they wouldn’t have known that...

They know EVERYTHING that they need to know!

96 posted on 01/24/2015 9:26:58 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Leto
What is funny when the 12.5 psi balls were brought into the game the Pats smoked the Colts 28-0 in the second half. Brady was 8-8 to start the second half. Lot of sour grapes losers here.

Totally asinine comment...the results of the game are irrelevant...of course the Pats would have won the game but a multibillion dollar sport has been besmirched by CHEATERS and whatever penalty they get is nowhere near severe enough. If you CHEAT...regardless of what the score was....YOU'RE A LOSER

97 posted on 01/24/2015 9:32:03 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: over3Owithabrain

“The footballs for both teams were inflated and ensured to be at the same levels before the game. Same controlled env1ironment and done by the officials.”

You are in error in this one critical statement. What NOONE knows is what the actual inflation pressures were at the time of testing prior to the game. There is an allowable RANGE of pressure (12.5 to 13.5 psi) that was measured by the officials prior to the game. We do not know what either the Colts or Pats footballs measured at that time, except that ALL the footballs met the league limits. Depending on the preference of the QB, the Colts footballs may have been at 13.5 psi. We know that Brady prefers his footballs at 12.5 psi - an immediate 1 psi differential. So your statement that the footballs were the same is not borne out by the evidence at hand.


98 posted on 01/24/2015 9:34:33 PM PST by T. Rustin Noone (the angel wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: terycarl

” I was a science major and flunked nothing...a football CANNOT lose 2# of air pressure when going from a 70 degree room to an 50 degree field..PERIOD.....and if it were possible(it’s not) ALL of the balls, including those owned by the Colts would have suffered the same fate...THEY DIDN’T

Science major or not, you don’t know what you are talking about..


99 posted on 01/24/2015 9:35:15 PM PST by babygene
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To: babygene

Science major or not, you don’t know what you are talking about..


Watch the results of the findings....I’m right....as usual


100 posted on 01/24/2015 9:40:07 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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