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BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM
boblonsberry.com ^ | 02/06/15 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 02/06/2015 8:16:59 AM PST by shortstop

There is a difference, Mr. President, between Christian extremism and Muslim extremism.

Christian extremism was in the 1400s.

Muslim extremism was Wednesday.

One is a dark era in the history books, the other is a threat to modernity as we know it.

At the National Prayer Breakfast yesterday, after bowing to the Dalai Lama, President Obama – apologist in chief for Islam – talked about protecting the reputation of the Muslim world. Then he minimized the evil of militant Islam by bringing up the Spanish Inquisition and even Jim Crow, citing them as counterbalancing examples of Christian terrorism.

In his mind, there is some sort of moral equivalence, as if he wants to tell the American people that folks who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

I don’t know the president’s personal religious views, if he has any. So I can’t speak to his belief.

But I can speak to his facts.

And the facts are that Christianity – the world’s largest religion – is the best thing ever to happen to humankind. Beyond what Christians consider to be its soul-saving truths, Christianity is the moral and philosophical wellspring of modern democracies and individual liberty.

Without Christian teaching about the worth of individuals, the concept of unalienable personal rights would never have emerged. Without the Christian teaching of “Love thy neighbor,” and “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you,” prosperous market economies – based on integrity and honesty – could not have come into existence.

The modern world, directly or indirectly, is shaped by Christianity, and that explains why this is the freest and most prosperous era yet in the history of humankind.

The fact the president refuses to acknowledge that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t.

That’s not to say that all of Islam is bad.

It seems clear that the courage and values of the Hashemite king – Abdullah II of Jordan – are admirable and praiseworthy. Claiming literal descent from Mohammed, the king nonetheless seems tolerant of others and isn’t intent on beheading infidels.

In fact, he may be one of the Middle East’s most important defenses against militant Islam and its brand of faith.

But the sad fact remains that for tens of millions of Muslims around the world, the crusade of hate being waged by the Islamic State and Al Qaida is a just and holy war commanded by their God and countenanced by his holy book.

They war not just against Christians and Jews, but against Muslims of a different or more peaceful bent. There is a war going on within Islam, but it is just the opening bout. The main event will be whoever comes out of that fight going against the rest of us.

Islam is rising. It has colonized much of Europe, producing separatist populations within established Christian countries. In some areas it rises through demographic means, and the increased profile of its practice. In others it rises through the suicide vest and the AK47.

The dream of a caliphate runs through the Muslim world. The disagreement is over how it is to be established.

Unavoidably, there will be conflict with Christianity.

In that conflict, Islam will enjoy the advantage because, generally speaking, Muslims believe in their religion and Christians don’t. While Islam is on the rise, Christianity is clearly on the wane. The number of Muslim nations is increasing, the number of truly Christian nations is shrinking.

Europe, the modern capital of Christianity, is almost religionless. The United States, still the most-churched nation on earth, has run headlong away from its Christian roots.

The most passionately Christian peoples on earth are now in Africa and Latin America, though in Africa they increasingly face genocidal Muslims and in Latin America Marxist humanism grows ever more powerful.

As Islam moved into Moorish Spain, and knocked the last legs out from under the Roman and Byzantine empires, there was pushback by Christian nations and peoples. Ultimately, that pushback drove Islam back into the deserts of the Middle East.

That led to a flowering of human civilization.

But they’re back.

Militant and expansionist Islam envisions a “Zionism” of its own, a belief that God has given them the world and all they need do is claim it.

Who knows what fate or God have planned.

But in this conflict of cultures and religions, Christian tolerance is proving a fatal flaw in the face of Muslim intolerance. Muslims in Christian nations claim rights which Christians would never have in Muslim countries.

It’s not just that we refuse to fight, it’s that we refuse to even acknowledge that there is a fight going on. So while we dither, a world war is raging.

And it seems that our president does everything he can to keep us unaware of that fact.

While ISIS holds an American woman hostage – facing the fate all ISIS hostages have thus far met – the White House is lecturing reporters that the Islamic State is not a terrorist organization. Oddly, the administration has imposed a blackout on the woman being held hostage and most Americans don’t even know she’s being held – it makes you wonder if that is supposed to protect her, or the administration.

In America, criticizing the enemy, or even suggesting that there is an enemy, is politically incorrect and denounced as racism or bigotry.

And the president, after bowing to the Dalai Lama, sought to remind yesterday’s National Prayer Breakfast of the evils of Christianity.

That’s one more area where he’s wrong.

Christianity isn’t the problem, Christianity is the solution. It isn’t our hindrance, it is our only hope.

No matter what Barack Hussein Obama says.


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Europe, the modern capital of Christianity, is almost religionless. The United States, still the most-churched nation on earth, has run headlong away from its Christian roots.
1 posted on 02/06/2015 8:16:59 AM PST by shortstop
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2 posted on 02/06/2015 8:21:41 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: shortstop
...even Jim Crow, citing them as counterbalancing examples of Christian terrorism.

"Jim Crow" wasn't an example of Christian terrorism - it was an example of Democrat terrorism.

3 posted on 02/06/2015 8:21:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: sauropod

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4 posted on 02/06/2015 8:25:16 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: shortstop

OBAMA’S CHRISTIANOPHOBIA IS A BY PRODUCT OF HIS ISLAMOPHILIA

Obama, in another despicable attack to the Christians and to America’s Judeo-Christian foundation that made this nation a beacon of freedom and prosperity, tried to equate the debauchery that characterized Islam since its foundation to this day, to the crimes committed by Christians 700 years ago.

Obama knows quite well the bloody and horrendous history of Islam. He is well verse in the “holy” Koran and Muhammad teachings. Born and educated as Muslim he never converted to Christianity. Islam condemns Apostasy by death, unless is a false (taqiyya) conversion aimed to further the expansion of the Islam.

According to the Koran :

Quran (8:12) - “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (9:5) - “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

According to this verse: save yourself from being cut to pieces by converting to Islam. Extreme violence manifests in the Five Pillars of Islam. Once Muslims gain numbers and more power, they violently kill those unbelievers who refuse to convert.

Obama always tries to shield the atrocities committed in the name of Islam.

As Reverend Graham further said in response to President Barack Obama drawing a parallel between the barbaric acts of the Islamic State today with actions by Christians during the Crusades, which ended 700 years ago, evangelist Franklin Graham said there was a difference between Jesus Christ who “taught peace “ and did “not take life” versus Mohammed, who “was a warrior and killed many innocent people.”

Reverend Graham further said that, “True followers of Christ emulate Christ – true followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.”

Beheading is a permanent staple of Islam, that is why Mohammed owned several swords, one infamously named the “cleaver of vertebrae.”

TheReligionofPeace.com
Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians
(Since 9/11)

This is a list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since September 11th, 2001. These attacks have nothing to do with war, combat or insurgency. The victims are innocent Christians who were specifically targeted and abused solely on account of their faith by those who claim their own religion as a motive.

There may be a few anomalies on the list, as it is compiled by keyword search from our main database. Neither is this a complete account of Islamic terror attacks on Christians since much of the violence goes unreported.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm
Debauchery is at the core of Islam, since its foundation.


5 posted on 02/06/2015 8:25:24 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: DuncanWaring
Always the straw-man argument from Obola.
6 posted on 02/06/2015 8:26:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: shortstop

Christianity isn’t the problem, Christianity is the solution. It isn’t our hindrance, it is our only hope.

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If Barack Hussein Obama was a Christian, he’d know this and his actions would prove he knew it.

Matthew 7: 15-20
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them


7 posted on 02/06/2015 8:26:44 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: shortstop

Christianity is also on the rise in China, Taiwan, and South Korea, and will rise in North Korea when the Kim dynasty inevitably topples. The blood of martyrs is the seed of the church in Java, and there is revival now in much of the Christian sections of the Philippines. It also has a good chance of rising in Viet Nam, and perhaps the rest of Indochina as well. It would take a miracle for a Christian expansion into India, and 150 years of missionary work has led to very little result in Japan, but at least the Indians and Japanese in general are anti-Muslim, certainly anti-jihadist. America still has a chance to come back from the brink, but our time is increasingly short. God, however, will build His church in the world, and the gates of Mecca will not prevail against it.


8 posted on 02/06/2015 8:29:04 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: shortstop

See my tagline.


9 posted on 02/06/2015 8:32:28 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: shortstop
Then he minimized the evil of militant Islam by bringing up the Spanish Inquisition and even Jim Crow, citing them as counterbalancing examples of Christian terrorism.

The "everybody does it" defense.

10 posted on 02/06/2015 8:36:36 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: shortstop

Bob, don’t accept the contemporary Muslim/atheist premise that the Crusades were terrorism against peaceloving Arabs. It’s a lie.


11 posted on 02/06/2015 8:38:21 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: shortstop

The difference, in a nutshell:

Christians, IN THE PAST, did atrocious things CONTRARY to their scripture.

Muslims, CURRENTLY, are doing atrocious things IN CONFORMITY with their scripture.

Two sentences. That’s it.


12 posted on 02/06/2015 8:38:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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When atheist bring up the Inquisition it is clear they don't have a clue what they are talking about . Off 150,000 trials one report I read said that there were about 1,000 executions over 150 years. This was from Wiki. Maybe some one with more knowledge could further enlighten. 1,000 executions a week for Boko harem and ISIS is a slow week.
13 posted on 02/06/2015 8:42:27 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: shortstop

I cannot recall any Christian population forcing their kids to don suicide vests or asking their women to commit murder/suicide because the men are all nutless, chicken shiites.


14 posted on 02/06/2015 8:43:02 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: shortstop

This stupid little a-hole obviously doesn’t either know or care that it was his party that created Jim Crow.


15 posted on 02/06/2015 9:15:09 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: shortstop

16 posted on 02/06/2015 9:27:05 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: shortstop

Is my history skewed or wasn’t the Crusades in response to Muslims taking over and attempting to take over Europe and the known world?


17 posted on 02/06/2015 9:47:15 AM PST by rey
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To: shortstop

>Christian extremism was in the 1400s.<

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That was NOT extremism — Europe tried to defend itself against Muslim aggression.


18 posted on 02/06/2015 10:16:00 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Candor7

Great article. Thank you for posting.


19 posted on 02/06/2015 10:17:12 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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The following paragraph is excerpted from the CENTENNIAL Thanksgiving Sermon, DELIVERED BY REV. B. W. ARNETT, B. D., AT ST. PAUL A. M. E. CHURCH, URBANA, OHIO 1876 - available in the "Library of Congress - Historical Collections" - "African-American Pamphlets from the Daniel A. P. Murray Collection," 1820-1920; American Memory, Washington, DC.

This historical treasure is one which should be prominent in our national discussions, especially now, when our philosophical foundations are being challenged, and when the views of a learned man like Dr. Arnett might shed light on centuries-old ideas about America's history. His theme: Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to any People."

"Withdraw from Christendom the Bible, the Church with its sacraments and ministry, and Christian morality and hopes, and aspirations for time and eternity; repeal all the laws that are founded in the Christian Scriptures; remove the Christian humanities in the form of hospitals and asylums, and reformatories and institutions of mercy utterly unknown to unchristian countries; destroy the literature, the culture, the institutions of learning, the art, the refinement, the place of woman in her home and in society, which owe their origin and power to Christianity; blot out all faith in Divine Providence, love, and righteousness; turn back every believer in Christ to his former state; remove all thought or hope of the forgiveness of sins by a just but gracious God; erase the name of Christ from every register it sanctifies—in a word annihilate all the legitimate and logical effects of Christianity in Christendom—just accomplish in fact what multitudes of gifted and learned minds are wishing and trying to accomplish by their science, philosophy, and criticism, and what multitudes of the common people desire and seek, and not only would all progress toward and unto perfection cease, but not one of the shining lights of infidelity would shine much longer. Yes, the bitterest enemies of this holy and blessed religion, owe their ability to be enemies to its sacred revelations - to the inspiration and sublimity of that faith which reflects its glories on their hostile natures. They live in the strength of that which they would destroy. They are raised to their seats of opportunity and power by the grace of Him they would crucify afresh; and is it to be thought that they are stronger than that which gives them strength? Can it be supposed that a religion which civilizes and subdues, and elevates and blesses will succumb to the enmities it may arouse and quicken in its onward march? Are we to tremble for the ark of God when God is its upholder, and protector, and preserver?”
Dr. Arnett, an A.M.E. Minister and Ohio State Legislator, was invited to publish this remarkable sermon commemorating the Centennial of the Declaration of Independence by the following method:

To:

Rev. B. W. ARNETT, B. D.

Dear Pastor:

Will you please prepare your “Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon” for publication: together with whatever matter pertaining to the colored people of this city, you deem worth preserving.

We make this request of you, believing that the publication of such matter, will be of benefit to the present and succeeding generations.

Yours Respectfully,

J GAITER
J. DEMPCY
C. L, GANT
Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Urbana, O.

December 7th, 1876

J GAITER, J. DEMPCY, C. L, GANT

Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Yours is at hand, requesting me to prepare my "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon" for publication. If you think that my words will be of any advantage to you, and those whom you have the honor of representing, I am willing to leave it to your judgement and will prepare my feeble effort for the press: hoping that, if there is nothing new in it, at least I may awaken some one to follow "the Moccasin tracks of Righteousness, and the Foot Prints of sin on the sands of time," and be better prepared for the duties they owe to themselves, their families, their country, and their God.

I am, yours,

BENJAMIN W. ARNETT

20 posted on 02/06/2015 12:51:59 PM PST by loveliberty2
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