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Putin Is NO Friend Of The West
Ion Pacepa ^

Posted on 02/19/2015 12:58:31 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

This guy isn't western.

He's not modernized.

He's not moderate.

He doesn't care about the West.

He's not compassionate.

He is using GLASNOST

And people in the West.. faced with such a weak leader as Obama.. are eating it up.

Putin is a DICTATOR! He is NOT.. I repeat NOT our friend. He isn't a friend of the West.

Every Soviet leader has used this "polishing" trick going back to Ivan the Terrible.

PUTIN IS KGB.


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KEYWORDS: putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; soviet; ukraine; vladtheimploder
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To: familyop

bump!


41 posted on 02/19/2015 2:10:03 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: NRx

This Soviet KGB man is only 62 and is threatening the West, you don’t really need to work on us to get us to appreciate how much you admire the man, we just need to defeat his long term military plans.


42 posted on 02/19/2015 2:35:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

Exactly! bump!


43 posted on 02/19/2015 2:41:54 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: FreeReign
As I understand it, the Ukrainians refused to join collective farms, and their produce was taken from them. How that was done, I don't know.

Many starved. If they had complied, many more would have survived. This all during a period of large population growth, and famine world wide, especially in China, India.

In Hitlers Germany, the Jews had no choice whatever.The USSR realized the attributes of the Jews and denied them exit, Hitler did the opposite, no value and death.

However I don't think this is of major relevance of what's going on today.

44 posted on 02/19/2015 2:52:44 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

I finally looked at your posting history you started out pushing Putin and Russia.

You are devoted to Putin and Russia and have been from the beginning, you didn’t need any current news, and Ukraine doesn’t matter.

You have been devoted to Putin since your very first posts, when you started your rabid posts on Putin, Russia, and Pat Buchanan.


45 posted on 02/19/2015 3:42:52 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Yeah, but if he’s an enemy of Islam , that’s okay with me.


46 posted on 02/19/2015 3:54:05 PM PST by livius
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To: ConservativeMan55

How right you are about Putin and Russia.

They are the enemy.


47 posted on 02/19/2015 3:56:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Neither is Barack Obama.


48 posted on 02/19/2015 3:57:20 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: livius

Who do you think will be helping Islam against the world?


49 posted on 02/19/2015 3:57:48 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

By the way, the only “polishing” trick Ivan the Terrible might have used was “polishing” the bleached skulls of those who crossed him.

He did not give a sh!t what anyone thought of him.


50 posted on 02/19/2015 3:59:59 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Also, Ivan IV was NOT a soviet leader.


51 posted on 02/19/2015 4:04:11 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

That is not true.

I agree that Putin is not a friend of the U.S., but you’re full of it if you say he does not care about Russia.


52 posted on 02/19/2015 4:06:37 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: duckln

Please elaborate on this wonderful “choice” which Stalin gave the Ukrainians, but which I, in nearly three decades of study of Russian history, have never before heard.


53 posted on 02/19/2015 4:17:02 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: duckln

Big fan of Joseph Stalin, are you?


54 posted on 02/19/2015 4:24:54 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: duckln
"Many starved. If they had complied, many more would have survived."

Is anyone else reading this like I am? If those damn Ukies had just laid back and taken it, they'd still be alive? Dude, get bent. You and the rest of Putler's tools here.

55 posted on 02/19/2015 4:26:30 PM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: WayneS

I disagree with you here. I believe Putin cares about power. Despite many praising him he hasn’t really been that good for Russia.

Putin was given power at the time when painful economic reforms had been done and oil price started to rise. Economy was already growing with year 1999 showing 6.4% GDP growth - first year to show growth before the fall of USSR. Putin was then blessed with a record oil price boom and the oil fueled growth continued.

He didn’t manage to achieve Russia building a solid economy though. It remained totally dependent on oil. I don’t think economy even interests him that much. What he managed was to get rid of most of the recently instituted freedoms so now his tightly controlled press was of course singing hosannas to supposed genius of Putin. Removing freedom secures his personal power, but I would say it is very bad for Russia. For putting what is good for him before what is good for his country makes him a bad statesman.


56 posted on 02/19/2015 4:44:33 PM PST by Krosan
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To: mbennett203; duckln

I’m reading it exactly like you are.

It is quite clear that duckln likes totalitarian governments.


57 posted on 02/19/2015 4:51:24 PM PST by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: ansel12

The United States.


58 posted on 02/19/2015 5:59:38 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Russia will be allying with our enemies like they always have.

North Korea, China, Iran, the Russians will continue doing what they do, be the bad guys.

Whether Reagan is the president, or Ted Cruz, the Russians will be serving evil.


59 posted on 02/19/2015 6:16:38 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: WayneS
Putin is not Stalin. It's murky to me what actually happened.

Do you , with your expertise, have a few good links on the subject?

The 'choice' is , simple as I can make it is, a Ukrainian farmer is ordered to join a collective as all the other Russians have. He refuses. They take away his 'produce'. He and his family starves as do all the Ukrainians in the cities. Millions they say. Pick your number.

If they accepted to join, they would be no better or worse than the average Russian. But they would not all be dead.

The despicable Nazis gave the Jews no choice. They were to be gassed, no matter what they did.

To me that's a small but important distinction. It makes me believe that Hitler was far more evil than Stalin in comparing those two events.

60 posted on 02/19/2015 8:28:33 PM PST by duckln
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