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To: GeronL

Net-Neutrality has liars on all sides. What we all want is cheap unfettered access to the web. And we want others to have the same. So, new companies have the same rights as big companies. So Foxnews.com can’t pay for better service than Freerepublic.com.

But the government and the cable companies want control. Both tell the truth when it comes to the fears of the other getting control. The government does want to spy and tax. The cable companies want to charge dot.coms for access, getting paid on both sides like a newspaper charges the reader and the advertiser.

As consumers we have good reason to fear both sides. Neither can be trusted. As freepers we should not be clearly on one side or the other. Comcast, the owner of MSNBC should not be able to select winners and losers on the Web. And the government should not be able to hide taxes in our internet bills like they do with the phone bills. The internet is cutting into the money governments made on phone bill taxes.

This issue is like the keystone pipeline. Both are fights between big business and big government. We should not take sides when two thieves are fighting over which one has the right to rob us.


9 posted on 03/01/2015 1:15:57 PM PST by poinq
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To: poinq
Comcast, the owner of MSNBC should not be able to select winners and losers on the Web.

Comcast should be free to sell its services on whatever terms it deems fit, and customers should be free to patronize Comcast or not as they choose; anything else is socialism.

10 posted on 03/01/2015 1:56:56 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: poinq
So Foxnews.com can’t pay for better service than Freerepublic.com

As a consumer, I should expect to see choices driven by cost/performance, along with a number of competitors offering a product... Even within a single ISP, if they want to charge more for a higher throughput rate that's their prerogative, barring monopolistic practices.

As far as what we 'should' do as Freepers, I'd refer you to the forum Mission Statement by JimRob – and that doesn't include an automatic, disparaging moral equivalence between "big" business & an all-intrusive Gov't.

11 posted on 03/01/2015 2:12:42 PM PST by mikrofon (Weekend BUMP)
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To: poinq
Wow your way off...

The issue is not selling service.. it selling what called QOS.. Quality of service.... classes of service..when multiple streams of traffic all content during the same time for the same bandwhith ...who goes first and who has to wait and how long.... .

The Internet is a shared service yes....

The thing is the big content provides are the biggest bandwhitch hog.. and there streaming service are time sensitive.. they have to go first or..they buffer... so there traffic pushes everyone else out of the way it goes to the head of the line...

So the isp charged for this priority and if the customer still uses more of the shared common bucket of bandwidth that all the customer must use they the hog get throttled back for a time so other can use there share of the common bandwidth..

Its like an apartment building having one common hot water tank you can't have one person using all the hot water that leaves no one else with any so you got a throttle the hog back...

Trust me isp want to make money.. they do this by selling bandwhitch and that is both shared commodity and perishable commodity..

They want it 100% used an all times... just like an airlines selling seats they want a hundred percent capacity on every flight ..

So for customer that book early and fly first class there guaranteed a seat and guaranteed to be in front of everybody else ...but that also means that if you need that guarantee ...your abusiness customer has to fly and be there on time to make your money back to guaranteed to be there on time...you needs to pay to the airline for that guarantee ....

else if you want the cheap rates you gotta risk being bumped risk missing your flight..

And then its your as a business are responsibility to explain to the customer why you missed your flight and not blame it on the airline because you tried to buy the cheapest flight and took standby..

Conversely the private guy doesn't care..the guys that can afford to get bumped...gets “stand by “ and get the cheapest rates but they may not get a seat or service as a guy get paid first class rates...but now you're saying everybody supposed to get the same quality of service and you can't charge difference so the bandwidth hogs are going to eat up all the bandwidth and everybody else can be left with the scraps

13 posted on 03/01/2015 3:20:40 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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