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Make the Confederacy's Defeat a National Holiday (Hurl)
New Republic ^ | April 5, 2015 | Brian Beutler

Posted on 04/06/2015 11:47:50 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: CodeToad
...and a racist that did not want blacks in Illinois.

Lee and Davis didn't want blacks in the South unless they were somebody's property. If you want to tar Lincoln as a racist using today's standards then you have to be honest and admit that every Southern leader you care to name was as racist as Lincoln, if not more so.

101 posted on 04/07/2015 3:29:33 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The subject was Lincoln, not anyone else. Sorry you have such a hatred of the South as to try to bring them into every conversation. Seems you have a personal problem you might want to seek professional help getting over.


102 posted on 04/07/2015 3:35:35 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad
The subject was Lincoln, not anyone else.

The subject was the oddball idea of making the Confederacy's defeat into a national holiday. It was you and your side-kick central_va who felt the need to bring Lincoln into it, and you who went all 'Reverend Al' on us and started calling people racist.

Sorry you have such a hatred of the South as to try to bring them into every conversation.

Say what?

Seems you have a personal problem you might want to seek professional help getting over.

And you might seek counseling on that rabid anti-Lincoln vendetta you have. It ain't healthy.

103 posted on 04/07/2015 3:43:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Regal

“it was an attack on the US, by treasonous states.”

I presume you are an American. As such, you were both on the “winning” and “losing” side. Lee, Grant and others are American heroes who exemplify our history as a great nation.

the 10th amendment to the Constitution was the biggest loss of the Civil War. It’s demise starting with the end of the civil war hurts America to this day.

One day patriots will seek to reclaim our Constitution. Plenty will call it treason. I pray enough will know the difference And find themselves on the American side against tyranny.


104 posted on 04/07/2015 3:48:37 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
the 10th amendment to the Constitution was the biggest loss of the Civil War.

In what way?

105 posted on 04/07/2015 3:53:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CodeToad

Lincoln was no more of a racist than you are.


106 posted on 04/07/2015 3:59:37 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oh, dear. Sorry to hear you’ll be mauled by crowds. I love the beauty of Virginia. Spent my honeymoon there touring the battlefields. I’m a nerd!


107 posted on 04/07/2015 4:01:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: DoodleDawg

Starting with the civil war, the primacy of the federal government over powers reserved for the states was cemented. It’s been one sacrifice after another at the expense of states and AmErica since then.


108 posted on 04/07/2015 4:01:37 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: DoodleDawg

Lee didn’t want slaves in the south at all. He wanted them freed when he accepted leadership as the head of the army.


109 posted on 04/07/2015 4:04:25 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein
Lee didn’t want slaves in the south at all. He wanted them freed when he accepted leadership as the head of the army.

"Considering the relation of master and slave, controlled by humane laws and influenced by Christianity and an enlightened public sentiment, as the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country, I would deprecate any sudden disturbance of that relation unless it be necessary to avert a greater calamity to both. I should therefore prefer to rely upon our white population to preserve the ratio between our forces and those of the enemy, which experience has shown to be safe. But in view of the preparations of our enemies, it is our duty to provide for continued war and not for a battle or a campaign, and I fear that we cannot accomplish this without overtaxing the capacity of our white population." - Robert E. Lee letter to Andrew Hunter, January 1865

That doesn't sound like someone who didn't want slaves at all to me. And that was four months before he surrendered to Grant.

110 posted on 04/07/2015 4:19:49 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RFEngineer
Starting with the civil war, the primacy of the federal government over powers reserved for the states was cemented.

For example?

111 posted on 04/07/2015 4:20:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: miss marmelstein
What’s so inferior about the South? It’s got better food, better weather and nicer people. I speak as a northeasterner.

The South is less racist, as well.

112 posted on 04/07/2015 4:22:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: reg45

I need more days off, so why not all of them!

(I am kidding of course. I dont think we need a day off 150 years later. It would just confuse most of the uneducated idiots that walk the streets of our cities anyway. Many of them think MLK freed the slaves!)


113 posted on 04/07/2015 4:23:52 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: DoodleDawg

starting with reconstruction, ending with the EPA. All powers not specifically enumerated in the Constitution but claimed by the federal government anyway.


114 posted on 04/07/2015 4:32:31 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: DoodleDawg

Nevertheless, he advocated for the slaves to be freed before the war started. He thought it was an albatross.


115 posted on 04/07/2015 4:38:30 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Vermont Lt
I need more days off, so why not all of them!

Howie Carr says that Boston politicians and government hacks want to get a holiday every month.

And except for August, they have that in Boston (with Evacuation Day, Patriots' Day, Bunker Hill Day, as well as the holidays the rest of the country has).

Rhode Island celebrates Victory Day in August. It was formerly VJ Day, and an attempt was made to turn it into Bay Day, but it doesn't appear to have worked.

116 posted on 04/07/2015 4:44:41 PM PDT by x
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To: miss marmelstein
Nevertheless, he advocated for the slaves to be freed before the war started. He thought it was an albatross.

Quote please?

117 posted on 04/07/2015 4:59:05 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: miss marmelstein

I don’t think you’re a nerd. I love history. We welcome you back anytime!


118 posted on 04/07/2015 5:28:05 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: x

Thats only in Suffolk Co. The rest of is little people have to work all the way from Presidents Day to Memorial Day. Oh, the horror.


119 posted on 04/07/2015 5:56:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thank you. I love travelling down south. I have friends who recently moved so now I have another excuse to visit.


120 posted on 04/08/2015 4:32:00 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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