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Microsoft goes rogue: Windows on Android
Mashable ^ | April 3, 2015 | Evan Blass

Posted on 04/10/2015 6:24:47 PM PDT by dayglored

At a recent Windows Hardware Engineering Community summit in China, Windows chief Terry Myerson revealed a number of newsworthy tidbits about Windows 10,...

At the very end of the news items, almost as an aside, came word of a unprecedented trial that Microsoft is undertaking "in partnership" with popular Chinese handset manufacturer Xiaomi. According to Myerson, a select group of Xiaomi Mi 4 owners (power users, he calls them) will be invited to test out a custom Windows 10 ROM on their devices. Devices that ship running not Windows out of the box, but Android.

Let me restate that, so the full implications of such a program are clear:

Microsoft has prepared a build of Windows 10 for phones, that is capable of powering Android hardware
This is not just an emulator or even a dual-boot option, but an actual replacement for the stock Android firmware.

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(Excerpt) Read more at mashable.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: android; microsoft; windows; windowspinglist
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To: bigbob
> Also the Raspberry Pi B will get a version of Win10

Microsoft is wising up. Get the OS everywhere that they can. Get it into developers' hands. Make it something developers WANT to play with and program for.

21 posted on 04/10/2015 7:14:49 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Redbob
omg don’t they realize the popularity of Android systems is that they DON’T work like Windows???

The next version of Windows Server can be made to not work like Windows, too.

22 posted on 04/10/2015 7:23:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
How about.... Ubuntu Phone!!


23 posted on 04/10/2015 7:23:58 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: Moonman62

Don’t you mean run Windows on OS/2?

At any rate, I have a hard time fathoming why anyone would want to replace android with windows.


24 posted on 04/10/2015 7:38:47 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I have never known a “new” windows os to bring “old” hardware back to life. I do like windows phones so far though. I just broke my windows phone and just found the replacements lacking, not the os but hardware so I got a android. Missing my old phone 2 days later. Not a fan of iPhone at all.


25 posted on 04/10/2015 7:42:57 PM PDT by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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To: Greysard

Perhaps that’s a neat demo of skills, but why would anyone outside of the programmers’ community want to replace Android with Windows on a phone? “

I would like to be able to run Windows on the android tablets so that I could run my programs that need to run on Windows on a tablet of my choice and not just the Microsoft tablet.


26 posted on 04/10/2015 7:52:31 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: hopespringseternal

Nope. Microsoft found a way to break it with a “bug fix” update and that was the end of it.


27 posted on 04/10/2015 7:53:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dayglored
Does this mean I can install it on my paid-for S4 and delete all that bloatware?
I want speed and no frills for the programs I use, not bloat I'll never use.

If this is a real Windows then I can finally control everything on my phone,
just like my home computer. I can hope.

28 posted on 04/10/2015 7:55:57 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: MaxMax
> Does this mean I can install it on my paid-for S4 and delete all that bloatware? I want speed and no frills for the programs I use, not bloat I'll never use. If this is a real Windows then I can finally control everything on my phone, just like my home computer. I can hope.

I don't know yet, frankly. Could it be full-up Windows 10, with the ability to run multiple programs concurrently? Maybe not, for CPU performance reasons. But it could be a substantial subset of the full functionality.

Gotta see what they can do about the large RAM and disk requirements of a typical desktop or laptop installation, among other things.

29 posted on 04/10/2015 8:03:20 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

M4L


30 posted on 04/10/2015 8:05:51 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: dayglored

I don’t think ARM processors have enough HP to run Windows.


31 posted on 04/10/2015 8:09:45 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Red in Blue PA

No royalties for Android- it’s open source.


32 posted on 04/10/2015 8:12:21 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Google doesn’t get royalties for Android. It’s open source because it’s a version of linux.


33 posted on 04/10/2015 8:13:37 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: angry elephant

Bingo. There are Windows tablets from Acer, Dell and others but they’re pricey. That’s because they use the Atom processor. I would love to get Windows on my Acer Android Tablet as it would then be able to do everything my laptop does in a smaller package at a fraction of the price.


34 posted on 04/10/2015 8:17:55 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: dayglored

Have to wait until Amazon gets their hands on it. I’ve got SOO much catching up to do.....


35 posted on 04/10/2015 8:43:20 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: dayglored

I’m very interested in this concept, and hope MS can regain is mojo. Better to have more creative movers in the market.


36 posted on 04/10/2015 9:52:15 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz; tacticalogic
> I’m very interested in this concept, and hope MS can regain is mojo. Better to have more creative movers in the market.

Yep, that's pretty much where my head is at, too.

Used to be you bought computer hardware and put whatever operating system you wanted to on it, assuming it had been compiled/built for that hardware, or you compiled/built it yourself if you had sources (e.g. Linux or BSD Unix).

Apple has always been the outlying point on that spectrum, because they sold SYSTEMS, not just hardware, or software. It was never easy to put anything on Apple hardware other than what came with it. But even that changed when Linux became available for Macs in the early 2000's, for instance my oldest MacMini is a PowerPC model, now running an older build of Fedora Linux.

But the handhelds (phones, tablets) appeared and they were "devices", mostly or entirely closed systems. You could fool around with Android a little, but you were still working with Android underneath whatever you did. And as usual Apple was adamant about their stuff staying iOS.

Microsoft has changed that landscape with the idea of completely replacing the system OS with a radically different one. They're not the first to think of it, but they're the first to accomplish it seriously with something the complexity of Windows.

This bears watching.

37 posted on 04/11/2015 6:25:47 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored
Apple has always been the outlying point on that spectrum, because they sold SYSTEMS, not just hardware, or software. It was never easy to put anything on Apple hardware other than what came with it. But even that changed when Linux became available for Macs in the early 2000's, for instance my oldest MacMini is a PowerPC model, now running an older build of Fedora Linux.

To me, this is where comparisons between Apple and MS run off the rails, and writing a hardware-agnostic OS gets conflated with building OS-agnostic hardware.

38 posted on 04/11/2015 6:38:00 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dayglored

Are there really people who don’t like Apple and Google—but like Microsoft?


39 posted on 04/11/2015 7:08:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
> Are there really people who don’t like Apple and Google—but like Microsoft?

Yep, sure are. Plenty right here on FR.

One of the reasons I started up the Windows Ping List was that there was no specific list on FR for Windows/Microsoft customers and fans to trade tech info, tips and helpful hints, complaints, get free support, trade rumors, etc. I felt there was a clear need, and a lot of folks apparently agreed and joined the list. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, but I've got over 25 years experience working with Windows from 2.0 to 10, Server NT4 to 2012R2, and everything in between.

Turns out there are a lot of pro-Windows, anti-Apple/anti-Google folks. Pro-Microsoft is only slightly less represented, mainly because MS is very politically correct like the others.

40 posted on 04/11/2015 8:22:22 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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