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Dash cam: Officer who shot black man told boss he ran away
AP release via Yahoo ^ | 4/14/15 | BRUCE SMITH and PHILLIP LUCAS

Posted on 04/14/2015 2:32:03 PM PDT by Usagi_yo

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To: colorado tanker

There was more to it more than a traffic stop. There was a foot chase that spanned a couple hundred yards, then a fight during which he was tasered and the officer briefly had him under control, then more fighting during which he grabbed the taser. It was then that the officer drew his gun and decided to shoot him. The officer should have put the brakes on that decision when Scott ran but he didn’t, and now Scott is dead. I’m not saying it was justified, but there’s a lot more to the story than you see in the cell phone video.


21 posted on 04/14/2015 3:33:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: EDINVA

Sure, male celibacy, that is the answer to women illegitimately producing babies 50 years after the invention of the pill, and in a day when they collect pay checks and government funding for having them.

I don’t think that saying that men should quit being sexually male, is the solution to this unholy bond between females females and the government.


22 posted on 04/14/2015 3:37:19 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Yardstick

Exactly. The cop could have thought that the guy was “running” away to get his own weapon.


23 posted on 04/14/2015 3:39:40 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
The cop could have thought that the guy was “running” away to get his own weapon.

From where?

24 posted on 04/14/2015 3:44:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: sagar

But that is not what slager claimed at all...he intially claimed he shot scott in “self defense”.


25 posted on 04/14/2015 3:45:05 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: DoodleDawg

“From where?”

Ask him. Oops.

Seriously, this is a bit complicated case. The cop was not set out to murder blacks. At the heat of the moment, he likely misjudged the situation and tried too hard to prevent the perp from escaping. If the perp had escaped and harmed someone in his desperate move, we all would be blaming the incompetent cop for “not stopping” the criminal.


26 posted on 04/14/2015 3:48:32 PM PDT by sagar
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To: colorado tanker

Is that what happened? He ran from a traffic stop and the cop just shot him?

Hm.


27 posted on 04/14/2015 3:51:23 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: DoodleDawg
From where?

The Tazer still lodged in the police officer who had lost control of it and been shot and didn't know where the gun was. He didn't know if he was about to be shocked.

28 posted on 04/14/2015 3:51:44 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: Yardstick

I agree, Yardstick.

On the website, The Conservative Treehouse, there is much better video footage, showing the taser prods trailing behind Scott as he runs from the Officer, and you can see the taser string wrapped around the Officer’s arm and leg.

Scott appeared to have grabbed the taser from Officer Slager, and we do not know if Slager was tased or not, but some think he may have been.

This changed the entire scenario for me. Fighting a police officer, try to grab his weapon, and fighting him on the ground looks like a felony to me.

I will wait until I get more evidence than that put out by the BGI gang that is trying to convict Slager in the media.


29 posted on 04/14/2015 4:02:43 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: LowOiL

Sorry there is no “evidence” that Slager ever had a taser barb in him other then speculation by a blog...

No mention in any of the released reports from the responing officers that Slager had a taser barb in him.

So when you can produce a report or a statement from an official that states Slager ever had a taser barb please post it up for us.

We do have a statement from From mayor Summey that a taser barb was still in Scot when he got to the coroner.

“Summey said Scott was hit with the officer’s Taser weapon, and they know that, Summey said, because one of the Taser projectiles was still attached”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3278555/posts


30 posted on 04/14/2015 4:06:24 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Crim

At the moment he decided to draw his gun and shoot Scott, it was in self-defense. Scott had fought with him and had grabbed his taser. But as he was drawing his gun the situation changed: Scott dropped the taser and started to run. Given this, he should have put the brakes on the action to shoot Scott. But instead he carried it through and shot him. It was his failure to stop the momentum of this action, which initially was justified but then quickly ceased to be, that led him to kill Scott.


31 posted on 04/14/2015 4:07:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick; All

Here is a link that will take you to the enhanced video. I think it has just been posted this afternoon.

If you watch the 6 second clip, right at the end you can see the wires between the two men.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/14/new-zoom-video-the-walter-scott-officer-slager-taser-struggle/


32 posted on 04/14/2015 4:08:53 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: Yardstick
"Scott dropped the taser and started to run."

The taser laying on the ground behind Slager?

Clearly the SLED investigators dont agree.

33 posted on 04/14/2015 4:15:18 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: jacquej

At the 1 minute mark Slagor jogs back to retrieve the taser...

at 1.30 he drops it by scott..

At the 2 minute mark you can clearly see him pick up the taser that he tossed down and holster it on his left side.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/apr/08/us-police-fatal-shooting-south-carolina-phone-footage-viral-video


34 posted on 04/14/2015 4:17:40 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: bolobaby

Sure looks like it. Watch the video.


35 posted on 04/14/2015 4:18:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: LowOiL

The coroner reported that Scott was shot by the taser.


36 posted on 04/14/2015 4:22:43 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: jacquej

I agree there are wires between the two men. I just think they got tangled between them as they were fighting. If Slager had been tasered it would have come out by now. And if Slager had been tasered, there wouldn’t have been a dart in Scott, since it’s a single-shot device and there wasn’t time to reload. I do think the video shows that Scott was the last one to have possession of the taser. Since a spent taser can still be used in direct contact mode, I can see why Slager would perceive Scott as a threat to his life at that point and go for his gun.


37 posted on 04/14/2015 4:22:45 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Usagi_yo
I'm sure everyone here has noticed that you don't hear news reports of:

White officers shooting unarmed white men
White officers killed by unarmed black men
Black officers killed by black men, armed or not.

The media is flagrantly and deliberately publishing to the high hills every story of a white cop shooting a black perp. Guess what? Most cops are white. So if there's a death by cop it's likely to be a white cop. That's just the numbers.

Leaving out all the other statistics makes it crystal clear that the media is not reporting but trying desperately to shape public opinion.

38 posted on 04/14/2015 4:22:59 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Crim

Yep, the taser on the ground behind Slager. In the very first frames of the video you can tell that Scott tossed it to the rear of Slager just as Slager was pulling his gun.


39 posted on 04/14/2015 4:26:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: colorado tanker

I do not think it’s as simple as that...I dont believe Slager had any intention of killing anyone when the stop occured.

I do believe that after the “scuffle” (as stated by the witness) that slager just decided to “take him out”.

Going back to get the taser and dropping by Scott is the damning factor here....he clearly intended to claim “self defense” and moving the taser was central to that claim.

That suggests premeditation before he shot.

There was no other reason to alter the shooting scene by moving the Taser, unless he knew that moving the Taser would provide him with an excuse to shoot a fleeing perp in the back.

They dont just charge cops with Murder for no damn reason.


40 posted on 04/14/2015 4:30:38 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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