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Why some restaurants are doing away with tipping
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/why-some-restaurants-are-doing-away-with-tipping/2015/04/13/cb1b5a86-c299-11e4-9271-610273846239_story.html ^

Posted on 04/19/2015 7:30:39 AM PDT by Perdogg

On a busy Friday night in New York’s East Village, the friendly and efficient servers at Dirt Candy took home zero dollars in tips, but they considered it a good night. When you’re a server on salary — rather than relying on often-mercurial guests for your financial livelihood — every night is a good night.

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I noticed when I went to Asia that 10% is added to the bill. I think generally for some establishments, this is a good idea. If I buy a diet coke for $2.50 it costs the restaurant the same to deliver it to my table if I buy a glass of wine of $12.00.

The restaurant likes this because the cost of tracking tips is eliminated and it keeps bar tenders honest. I imagine some places, like Hooters, the waitresses would opposed this.

1 posted on 04/19/2015 7:30:39 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

In Britain, tipping percentage is much smaller. We are marks when we go to the European countries because of the generous tipping by Americans.


2 posted on 04/19/2015 7:33:21 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Not my circus, not my monkeys.......)
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To: Perdogg
I imagine some places, like Hooters, the waitresses would opposed this.

At Hooters, their tips may be based upon their, um, "tips."

3 posted on 04/19/2015 7:35:27 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Perdogg

They’re entitled to run their business as they please. And waiters can either accept this or go. This will lead to poor or inconsistent service. If you’re guaranteed a certain amount, why work any harder than you have to? Now they’re like fed employees. Some will work harder than others and get po’d. They’ll leave as a result. But...it’s up to the owner.


4 posted on 04/19/2015 7:36:43 AM PDT by albie
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To: Perdogg

Tipping provides an incentive for good customer service. Ideally it should reward it too. Of course some tightwads always try to rationalize their cheapness as standing up for some kind of principle.


5 posted on 04/19/2015 7:37:06 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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But if tips are to reward good service, shouldn’t we tip at the beginning of the meal? When you tip at the end, and you know you’ll never see that waiter again, why do it at all?

Mulla Nasrudin went to a Turkish Bath.

As he looked quite impoverished and was shabbily dressed, the attendants treated him with contempt in quite a disdainful manner, and gave him only a scrap of soap and an old towel.
When he left, Nasrudin gave the attendants one gold coin each.

Yes, each attendant got a tip of one gold coin each.

The attendants were perplexed.

Tips of one gold coin each for such shoddy treatment…?

The bath attendants could not understand it.

They even regretted the indifferent way on which they had treated Nasrudin as they wondered that if they had treated him better Nasrudin would have probably given them an even larger tip…maybe even a few gold coins each…! The following week Nasrudin appeared again at the Turkish bath.

This time, of course, he was looked after like a King in full luxurious style.

After being massaged, perfumed and treated with the utmost deference, and given a lavish and extravagant perfumed bath with the most expensive aromatic oils and perfumes, Nasrudin, while leaving, handed to each attendant the smallest possible copper coin and said, “These copper coins are your tip for the shoddy service you gave me last week, and the gold coins I gave you last week on my previous visit were the tip for today’s excellent service.”

6 posted on 04/19/2015 7:39:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: Perdogg

Hillary thought she was in a no-tipping restaurant...I see where this article is going.


7 posted on 04/19/2015 7:40:23 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Larry Lucido

How long have you had that lisp?


8 posted on 04/19/2015 7:42:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Perdogg

In Germany the “tip” is built into the cost of the good.

It is not uncommon to round up to the nearest Euro or so. For example if the bill is 38.80 Euro tell the waiter to round it up to 39 or 40.


9 posted on 04/19/2015 7:48:00 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Perdogg
When you stiff waiters for bad service, you might be penalizing them for something that’s not their fault, such as a backed-up kitchen.

A good waiter would visit the table and provide update(s), illustrating that poor service delivery is not due to his/her failure to attend to duties.

Cash-only tipping is my practice. I stopped adding tips to the credit card after learning that too often, management takes an administrative cut out of credit card tips intended for the wait and bus staff. Tipping the cook is nuts.

10 posted on 04/19/2015 7:59:58 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Perdogg

Mr.Pink likes this idea.


11 posted on 04/19/2015 8:01:50 AM PDT by bramps
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To: Hugin

“Of course some tightwads always try to rationalize their cheapness as standing up for some kind of principle.”

Like “Mr. Pink” In “Reservoir Dogs”?


12 posted on 04/19/2015 8:03:32 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: albie

I agree with your posts. The waiters can always leave if they want and seek employment in another restaurant. Personally, I wouldn’t work on salary as a waitress - I’d prefer the tips. In NYC, the money you make is wild. But this restaurant is certainly going to be popular with British tourists!


13 posted on 04/19/2015 8:11:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Hugin

I don’t like some, maybe most restaurants combining all tips and divvying it between all servers. I pay for my server’s ability alone, not the others.

It is more incentive to do a good job, and I tip extra if they do a really good job...as it should be.


14 posted on 04/19/2015 8:17:02 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Perdogg

In Texas, the base pay for a waiter is the federal amount of $2.31 per hour - they need tip. In Seattle it will soon be $15.00 per hour - they’ll do fine without tips, so my days of tipping there are over (if I ever go there again).

And keep in mind that tips only happen when there are customers in a joint - the $15.00 applies equally to dead time. Bottom line - in Seattle, tips are now built into the price of the product.


15 posted on 04/19/2015 8:33:49 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Lol...good story. Thanks!


16 posted on 04/19/2015 8:43:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: albie

“This will lead to poor or inconsistent service. If you’re guaranteed a certain amount, why work any harder than you have to?”

I doubt that. Is it your contention that any worker who has a fixed wage doesn’t work hard? There are still incentives to work hard, just like any other job - better servers may get raises, promotions, etc.


17 posted on 04/19/2015 8:45:09 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Sorry. You’re wrong. The “incentives” would be construed as unfair by the slackers in the group. Waiting on tables is a different mentality from sitting at a desk. Job skills are the same too. On a construction site, you move up the ladder after you learn a trade. Laborers get $10 p/h. Crane operators, brick layers much more. And the laborers can see that they earn it. Nothing will be “fair” again in this restaurant.


18 posted on 04/19/2015 8:55:31 AM PDT by albie
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To: ClearCase_guy

Great tale.


19 posted on 04/19/2015 8:57:40 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: NautiNurse
Cash-only tipping is my practice.

Me too. I always tip cash.

20 posted on 04/19/2015 9:01:43 AM PDT by Vinnie
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