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Sick of Chemtrail Haze Over NJ [Vanity]
Vanity | 4/19/2015 | Self

Posted on 04/19/2015 11:03:56 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen

I've watched the weather here for 50 years; growing up we did not have haze at 30,000 ft for months on end.

Every day, it's like being in a greehouse, an obvious light filter prevents the full sunlight from reaching the ground.

The past few years they've turned up the haze a lot.

Spring - so far only 2 or 3 days above 70. Summers have been very cool.

Have not had a really clear day in a long time. Decades ago, had really clear days all the time.

What's really annoying is that they think we're so stupid we don't notice, we don't look up... because it's not reported on the six o'clock news - and the fact that what they're spewing up there is probably some kind of nasty stuff.

My guess is that most of the eastern US is in the same boat.

So sick of being lied to by our ruling elite.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: aerosols; aluminium; arizona; billgates; cancer; chemicalclouds; chemtrail; chemtrails; geoengineering; heavymetals; kelliward; monsnto; newjersey; tinfoil; tinfoiledagain; tinfoilery; weathermanipulation
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To: PieterCasparzen

I thought this phenomenon was being referred to as ‘geoengineering’ nowadays...


121 posted on 04/19/2015 3:08:40 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Does the haze have the effect of cooling, or heating? What makes the most sense to me, if there actually is deliberate climate engineering going on, is cooling. The goal of deliberate haze would be moderating global warming IMO.

Interesting article on low sulphur jet fuel; http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Burning-Ultra-Low-Sulphur-Jet-Fuel-Could-Actually-Increase-Global-Warming.html

Haze could be from sulphate aerosols, 3000 PPM sulphur is pretty high. Ground use diesel fuel sulphur is a fraction of that.


122 posted on 04/19/2015 3:10:07 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

One theory is that the global elite actually believes the global warming hogwash. They are trying to cool the planet down for us the peasants. They have told the pilots and drone pilots that it’s a matter of national security (happening worldwide). Even if they’re doing it for humanitarian reasons, there are always unintended consequences.

Other possibilities include using chaff to block radar and weapon use. Or, the Agenda 21 slow-kill of millions (or billions) of us. More money for some along the way, fewer of us to get to their dream population of 500,000 worldwide.


123 posted on 04/19/2015 3:10:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

“I know it was going on in the Arizona desert before 2004, but they’ve really escalated it in recent years. It’s so obvious here, a place where we used to have deep blue skies year round, other than for an occasional El Nino year, and during our summer monsoon season.”

Nope, it’s just weather. See:
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeswestpacuswv.html

“There are thick grid lines laid down more days than not, crop dusting the peasants.”

Nope, no crop dusting. Crop dusting drops dust particulates which settle out of the atmosphere very quickly or liquid droplets which also cannot persist without evaporation into the atmosphere. Your airspace is part of an Air Force training area. The pilots undergoing the training must pilot their aircraft in certain patterns during such training for reasons of target acquisition and/or navigation.

“Even on days like today with no obvious Etch-a-Sketch sky, it’s a barely-blue sky.”

That’s simply weather sometimes made worse with aircraft contrails.

“Study the GOES imagery and note how Arizona is getting a lot of water vapor out of the pacific ocean due to the latest changes in atmospheric circulation.


124 posted on 04/19/2015 3:24:02 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: IronJack

Even fighter jets getting in on the act!


125 posted on 04/19/2015 3:26:05 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: Borax Queen

Who are the pilots they have told that to?


126 posted on 04/19/2015 3:30:28 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Having second eye done this week. I had them all.


127 posted on 04/19/2015 3:32:24 PM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I hear chemtrail haze is done by the government so that no one can view the moon using a high-powered telescope and realize thereby that we didn’t really land there.


128 posted on 04/19/2015 3:55:58 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: dynoman

Apparently, every once in awhile, one talks. It’s overall all part of the theory, however, I don’t think we’ll ever know why.


129 posted on 04/19/2015 4:00:27 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
There would be a lot more talking if it was true and they all knew.
130 posted on 04/19/2015 4:05:45 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you. Right now, I’m looking at all the parallel lines outside that won’t dissipate for hours upon hours. It goes dark by mid-day so often these days, that it looks like we’re on the coast with the morning fog. I have to make heavy use of indoor lighting, instead of just turning the lights on at 5, 6, or 7 pm. The talking heads continue to call it “high clouds” even as it’s dark and dismal outside by 1 pm. After a heavy spray night, it’s dark in the morning and we won’t see blue sky all day.


131 posted on 04/19/2015 4:06:11 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: dynoman

I would hope so. But the federal politicians are now almost all bought off, blackmailed, threatened, and not working for “the people.” Messages are sent to silence dissenters (from the tea parties/IRS to top generals and snipers). So... I don’t know how many pilots would be brave enough to speak up. I’ve talked directly to other pilots who know what’s going on, but I can’t say that I’ve directly talked to a geoengineering/whatever plane operator.


132 posted on 04/19/2015 4:10:26 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: PieterCasparzen

I have come to the conclusion that more people are more superstitious today than they were in the Middle Ages. About crazier things too.


133 posted on 04/19/2015 5:02:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: TigersEye

Agreed. Also, we are entering a new dark age of diminished rational thought processes.


134 posted on 04/19/2015 5:38:36 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Codeflier

Yep. My tagline about 10 years ago was “This is the age of the death of reason.” The decline continues apace.


135 posted on 04/19/2015 5:41:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: Dust in the Wind

Perhaps.

In any case, for most of my life I can’t remember seeing contrails from jet airccraft that persisted for many hours and spread out to block the sun on a clear day. It’s only since the mid 1990’s that I began to notice this phenomenon. I have a great view from my deck, I watch the sky sometimes. I’ll see commercial jets flying leaving white contrails in their wake that disperse and disappear within a short time. On rare occasions, I spot, at a higher altitude above these commercial jets, two or three large white unmarked jet planes (no markings discernible through binoculars) criss-crossing the sky and sprewing out contrails that do no dissipate but spread out, as I say. It’s very odd.


136 posted on 04/19/2015 6:00:44 PM PDT by concernedcitizen76 (Term limits. Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Sunset bureaucracies.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I don’t know what is causing the haze over NJ. I am in Georgia.

The chemtrails that are being sprayed here are to attempt to alter the weather. I believe its Aluminum Oxide. These are low level flying planes that fly back and forth in the sky spraying. They are not Delta and they are not military jets. Our neighborhood is in the flight path for Hartsfield airport. We watch the commercial jets fly over every few minutes. We also get high flying military jets from Dobbins coming through. They leave a narrow contrail that disappears in a few minutes. Most days we have two to three planes flying back and forth criss crossing each other at low altitude spraying. You can see them turn the spray on and off. Its not rocket science.

Mr. GG2 is a former pilot.


137 posted on 04/19/2015 6:04:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: concernedcitizen76
I understand and have seen same. But I am thinking that with time our suns out put is changing and with that naturally will be atmospheric changes. These could change the way these ice trails act. I don't know.
I have seen fighter jets in mock combat over the plains I live in and at high altitude those are the ‘tracks’ they leave in the sky.
138 posted on 04/19/2015 7:04:04 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

One of the additives for jet fuel is a metal deactivator. It wouldn’t make much sense to add both aluminum oxide and a metal deactivator.

The desire is for the fuel to be as pure as possible so there is less potential harm and wear on the engine.


139 posted on 04/19/2015 7:37:01 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Chemtrails???


140 posted on 04/19/2015 7:37:27 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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