Posted on 04/23/2015 9:19:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
” And since Orton lasted two more years in the league after the Jets cut Tebow then maybe Orton was the better QB after all? “
He had a losing record. So much for the teams that picked up Orton.
Yeah really. Subtract 15 point from the opponents in Orton’s games and Denver’s record is 4-1, and nobody pulls a 4-1 QB even if he does play like Kyle Orton.
Quite often? EVERY run outside the pocket by a QB besides him running out of bounds has a greater chance of injury than being in the pocket and that includes when he slides.
QBs in the pocket get hit how often in a game? Ten snaps out of the sixty in a game? Now insert a run first QB into that equation. How many times will he get hit? MUCH more than 10 per game.
It’s common sense and absurd to think that coaches/GMs are going to go against years of experience and their better judgment and roll back NFL offenses to suit a “running” QB.
By the way, your article is absurd. It placed Colt McCoy in the running category because they use statistics to determine who is a running QB. It also doesn’t measure strictly running plays by a running QB. It mixes runs resulting from a scramble, QB kneel-downs, etc. When you find some stats that only measures the number of injuries occurring from strictly run plays of the QB to the number of injuries resulting from pocket pass plays, post it. The article did affirm my point that NFL GMs and other personnel pros would rather not have QBs run with the ball.
“And the four games after that?”
One win ... three losses.
The one win? Over mighty 2-14 Jacksonville!
” EVERY run outside the pocket by a QB besides him running out of bounds has a greater chance of injury than being in the pocket and that includes when he slides.”
Studies do not confirm that. I posted a link.
“Yeah really. Subtract 15 point from the opponents in Orton’s games and Denver’s record is 4-1, and nobody pulls a 4-1 QB even if he does play like Kyle Orton.”
Whatever. A qb that has a 3.6 rating is going to get pulled.
” EVERY run outside the pocket by a QB besides him running out of bounds has a greater chance of injury than being in the pocket and that includes when he slides.
... When you find some stats ...”
When you find some stats ....
Orton’s rating that year was 75.7, which sucks. But Tebow’s was 72.9.
In your reply 162 you said, "In 2010 they took three to the season. Tebow beat out both Orton and Quinn." Tebow didn't beat out Orton in 2010. He took over for him in 2010 after an injury and in 2011 because of performance. And by the end of 2012 Tebow was the only one of the three who was out of football.
He was cut.
Orton was an NFL quarterback before Tebow was in the league and he was an NFL quarterback after Tebow was out of the league. Get over it.
And Tebow was only in one game.
And then the Broncos dumped him on the Jets.
“And then the Broncos dumped him on the Jets. “
For Peyton Manning.
They kept Caleb Jeffrey Hanie as backup.
I tried to find his stats but there aren’t any.
So did Orton, 44 and 43 lifetime. Orton had a seven and six record after Tebow was out of football.
How many playoff wins does Orton have?
I don't believe he has any.
Manning over Tebow? Can't blame Denver for making a no-brainer like that.
“after Tebow was out of football.”
Orton is ‘retired’.
Tebow is going to camp.
“Manning over Tebow? Can’t blame Denver for making a no-brainer like that. “
You said that Denver ‘dumped’ Tebow. Not exactly a ‘dump’ when you bring in PM.
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