[husky ed]

I've seen the damage that a .38 and a 9mm does to the human head. Both seemed pretty effective to me.

On the other hand, I also saw a .38+P round that couldn't penetrate the side (about one inch thick) of a wooden chair. Makes one think.

Ed

[yarddog]

I still have part of a box of original Supervel 90 grain jhp in 9mm. It is extremely hot.

I once videotaped myself shooting several cans of really cheap tomatoes. Come to think about it, I still have that old VHS-C tape. Anyway those Supervels literally exploded those tomato cans. More violent than even a .44 mag.