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Texas Rising

Posted on 05/26/2015 8:00:06 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans

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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I"m a junkie of historical movies, and a proud Texan. I really like History's Hatfield/McCoy and other ventures.

IMO..... This one however has been a real snoozer, and I'm not watching after ep.2.

41 posted on 05/27/2015 2:33:02 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: yarddog

“I read an article about the series which said it was bad history.”............

The series was probably written by liberals. We know how they like and want to distort the real “history”.


42 posted on 05/27/2015 4:07:42 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Prowler Fowler

wow. didn’t recognize him.


43 posted on 05/27/2015 5:30:11 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Since the advent of LGBT and GLAAD activists running the scripts being written for movies and TV series, I kept my finger on the channel button while watching last night.

I love Texas history and have to ignore some of the fluff and BS they add to the series. One thing that I did not like, was the portrayal of Jack Coffee Hays. Hays was one of the greatest Texas Ranger to ever wear the badge. He is credited with putting down the comanches once and for all. Hays almost single handedly fended off waves of Comanches attacking him at Enchanted Rock. There is a plaque there commemorating the event.

I hope they give more historical accuracy to his life as a Texas Ranger.

Hays county Texas was named after him. Hays later left for the California gold rush and the property he once owned is now the UC Berkeley campus.

44 posted on 05/27/2015 8:51:21 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Squawk 8888

First of all NONE of the terrain is within several hundred miles of San Antonio or Goliad. Houston must have retreated to Big Bend or to Utah!

Then the scene around Nacogdoches, that must have been prior to the primordial pine forest days, it is as thick a pine and hardwood forest as any in your Canada.

Obviously no one involved in making the movie ever visited Texas and instead falls back on the Old West Movies stereotypical depiction of Texas being like Monument Valley in Arizona.

Having grown up in Texas and studying Texas history all through school and a Junior College Texas History class by one of the best Texas historians, Bill O’neal. The “legend” of the halfrican ‘heroine’ the liberal PC writers want to depict as the High Yellow Rose of Texas is no more than a slutty hooker chasing the army camps, would have hardly been treated with such gentility. This character is 100% fiction, Google Emily West, it comes back that the ‘partial’ name was to some Mexican Grandmother and Wiki shows no mention of this character prior to a single person posting her multiple times no earlier than 2010.

All in all it does show Texans in the Revolution in mostly a good light and seems fairly accurate on the Mexican Army and Santa Anna brutality.

The Comanche Indians involvement during the Revolution must have been a well kept secret as was the hooker Emily West.

The gross mischaracterization of most of the history and the scenery now makes me wonder about the History Channel’s other “stories” integrity.


45 posted on 05/27/2015 10:14:10 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I was looking forward to watching and liking it.....
.....but meh.....
Lot of it is OK......some of it pretty good.....we didn’t need the ‘Yellow Rose’ hooker.....didn’t care for the two silly young men.....

...but really like ‘Deaf’s’ character......

...they’re not putting Houston in a good light (so far)..

I didn’t know Susanna and her child was attacked by Indians leaving the Alamo....
I thought it was just her, her child, and a trusted servant who were allowed to leave.......where did thse other women come in?


46 posted on 05/27/2015 2:12:19 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Liotta’s character got his brain singed when they tried to burn his body. He is killing Mexicans, but he is also disemboweling them, skinning them, and hanging them from trees. His only spoken lines so far have strange religious quotations.
Also, I don’t think they’ve done a bad job on Houston. He knew Santa Anna’s army was too big to fight. He waited until his supply lines were weak, and got him trapped. After the Alamo, that some of the men would call him a coward doesn’t surprise me. They show his character, and leadership skills so far.


47 posted on 05/28/2015 1:45:22 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: rikkir

Yeah, the character Brendan Fraser plays called him a “Lorka,” an Indian myth of a person who dies without honour and rises up to avenge his fallen comrades.

Liotta ain’t supernatural of course, but he’s definitely filled with hate and rage. Did you see that one scene where he witnesses the massacre at Goliad, and his lip is shaking and a tear falls down his cheek? Thought that was pretty good. Liotta is probably not going to stop till someone shoots him.


48 posted on 05/28/2015 5:02:33 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: X-spurt

C’mon, did you see Vikings with Ragnar Lothbrock and the Alien shows? Even the WWII mini-series was all screwed up historically. I stopped taking History channel as a source of history a long time ago.

Just enjoy it for what it is— a show! But it is refreshing that the Texans are depicted, generally, in a positive light. With a Hollywood production, I’d have expected the story would be about racist whites killing and raping innocent Mexicans.


49 posted on 05/28/2015 5:06:43 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yep I saw it. I think it was exceptional acting. I like Frasure’s character as well.
Over all, I think History is doing ok with the story.
I didn’t realize there were so many factions with skin in the game. I had always assumed it was Texians vs Mexico.

I was also pretty happy with the series “Sons of Liberty”. After seeing that, I was able to give this one a fair shake. I also agree with one knock on this series, location. However I have that problem with almost all movies, and TV shows. Having been to all 48 states, Canada, and Mexico, I can tell real quick when they are trying to fool us, and they are in this one.


50 posted on 05/28/2015 7:43:29 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Oh Contraire! “enjoy it for what it is” ignores the not so lightly underlying Political Correct re-write of an important part of our history.

As a student of Texas History who revers the larger than life sacrifices these Texas Revolution fighters that changed the world, this mini-series’ stupid farfetched scenery can be explained away as fictional poetic license living up to the old stereotype about Texas looking like the scenes from a John Wayne movie, but the serious political correct pretending that some half black prostitute who is, even as portrayed the storyline being a camp follower (hooker), has historically significant ‘relationships’ with Sam Houston and then Santa Anna and by inference had a large part in the outcome of the Battle of San Jacinto and Texas winning freedom, is beyond preposterous on any level.

The mere fact it is presented on the History Channel is intended to lend credence to this poorly disguised piece of liberal propaganda at the expense of all those brave Texans who fought and died to win a strong place for liberty and freedom.

The saddest part of this farce is that most people who watch this show will have no real clue about true the Texas Revolution history, many of which will take this tripe as fact to the detriment of those real Texas heros.


51 posted on 05/28/2015 7:56:57 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

The only reason Houston`s army won at San Jacinto is because they were supported by that big Battleship that is moored in the channel.


52 posted on 06/09/2015 4:24:39 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: fieldmarshaldj
... in order to liberate the Martians...

Well, it wouldn't be the History channel without some mention of...


53 posted on 06/09/2015 5:57:42 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Einherjar

I was amazed the battleship was not part of the scene! It would have gone right along with the big boulders and caves in abundance at San Jacinto! We have been told all wrong, the Revolution was actually fought somewhere between Big Bend and Big Bear (kalifornia).

I turned it off last night before da Hi Yellow Rose of Texas was able to Lewinski Sam Houston at Enchanted Rock.

What a mess of anything resembling historical reality!


54 posted on 06/09/2015 6:59:08 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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