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Malware is not only about viruses – companies preinstall it all the time
the guardian ^ | ‘Amazon’s Kindle shackles the user against sharing or even freely giving away or lending the book, | Richard Stallman

Posted on 05/27/2015 4:52:27 PM PDT by sopwith

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To: 9thLife

As far as functionality to the end user, the paid browser is about as bad as browsers get, though it has been improving.

Mozilla is a non-profit, and what money they do make is pretty much from google search results, which include ads. They have a staff of about 50 people, and their source code is open. They also sell t-shirts and other gear. It works for them. They provide a free product that millions of people like to use. What’s so horrible about that?


21 posted on 05/27/2015 6:19:00 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: SecondAmendment

They got to be mad at SOMETHING. They can’t just construct things, no that is too wimpy.


22 posted on 05/27/2015 6:25:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: taxcontrol

When you get a new computer do a low level format and reinstall from CD-ROM.


23 posted on 05/27/2015 6:28:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

Yeah, I just found the SYSTEM CHECKPOINT RESTORE feature. It takes about 4 steps, but there is no way to create a shortcut to invoke the process, like I did in WIN XP.

I realize now that the SYSTEM BACKUP/RESTORE that I was using was not the SYSTEM CHECKPOINT RESTORE feature, and of course I understand that one can’t back up a hard drive to itself. Why couldn’t they have left the SYSTEM CHECKPOINT restore feature where it was, and have added the HARD DRIVE BAKCKUP feature somewhere else ? That is what had me mixed up. Why put the DRIVE BACKUP in place of the CHECKPOINT feature then bury the CHECKPOINT feature several levels down under the COMPUTER PROPERTIES menus ?

As I said, I was used to XP, and just started using WIN 7 yesterday afternoon, so I am having to relearn how to do things. Imagine if every time you bought a new car, you had to learn how to drive completely over. That’s why I have always preferred APPLE operating systems and software in the past.

However, there is getting to be very little difference between the two anymore. Everything it being reworked to fit the smartphone/tablet environment.


24 posted on 05/27/2015 6:42:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
Your original question was, how much did I pay for my browser. Your opinion of it is a non sequitir.

What’s so horrible about that?

It's bullsh2t, that's what.

You sure you're on the right website?

25 posted on 05/27/2015 6:43:26 PM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
Win7 has many many advantages over WinXP that you may not know about.

Given time, I will likely find that out. However, I have only had this WIN 7 machine since yesterday evening.

The problem is that what I WAS USED TO was easier. Why did they have to change WHERE things were ? Why do they make it harder to do some of the more IMPORTANT things ?

Both are rhetorical questions because I KNOW WHY. It has always been this way with IBM/MICROSOFT. APPLE made their computers easy to use, and consistent regardless of what programs you ran.

I have been building and programming computers since I was a child, and know that they are all the same, but the way user interface software is written makes all the difference.

WIN 7 COULD have keep tried and true 'techniques' the same. They chose to change them. It's like a car manufacturer swapping the brake and gas pedals on different models of cars, just to make you think it's NEW AND IMPROVED. It's not NEW/IMPROVED and it's CONFUSING.

That being said, the way that WIN 7 handles driver installs is much quicker, smoother, and involves almost NO user action. I like that part.

26 posted on 05/27/2015 6:52:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I’m with you on why change what works. I’m all for adding features, but there’s no reason to remove or move things from where they were.

You want a system that’s hard to get used to, try transferring data to a Windows phone. Jesus.


27 posted on 05/27/2015 6:57:31 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: palmer

(My XP system had been up and running for years, using FIREFOX, CHROME and IE, and was well-protected. I had MSE, MALEWAREBYTES, and SUPERANTISPYWARE. Never had a problem with the computer, other than scanning and removing any attacks).

HOWEVER, none of those protect you from a MICROSOFT UPDATE.

As to your suggestions, one might as well just unplug the LAN cord and never access the internet. That way you will SURELY be safe.

I no longer have the XP system. I had them copy all my data over to a newer WIN 7 DELL. That is what I am on and have only had one day of ‘user experience’ so I am having to RELEARN how to do certain tasks as they have CHANGED the way you get to those tasks. And they didn’t make it easier.

They did add a bunch of flashy gadgets designed to impress the inexperienced and easily impressed new user. I really needed that ‘nifty’ WALL CLOCK thing. Gee, how would I ever know what time it was without that ?


28 posted on 05/27/2015 7:00:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 9thLife

It’s bullshit.

wow, what a cogent argument.

I’m on the right website, yes.

Hell, freerepublic runs on nginx and apache, both of which are free.

You sure you’re on the right website?


29 posted on 05/27/2015 7:01:29 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: UCANSEE2

Apple computers are easy to use, but you’re forced to do things their way. iTunes, for example, won’t let you swap your music files to the devices you want. It’s extremely limited.

I like to open up the hood and make changes that suit me. Open source lets you do that to amazing degrees. Windows is better than Apple about it, but they’re locking more and more stuff away.


30 posted on 05/27/2015 7:04:04 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: 9thLife; arbitrary.squid

You paid for a web browser? Mine was free, and has been working great for many years.

In fact I have other fantastic free ware which I’ve been using for years.


31 posted on 05/27/2015 7:05:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: arbitrary.squid
You want a system that’s hard to get used to, try transferring data to a Windows phone.

AND YET, if you have a desktop and a tablet, they will communicate automatically and swap your history, your bookmarks, etc. whether you want it to or not.

32 posted on 05/27/2015 7:06:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dayglored

Ping


33 posted on 05/27/2015 7:10:28 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I have not had that happen at all.


34 posted on 05/27/2015 7:15:59 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: sopwith
This might be an appropriate thread in which to complain about the new Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (Document Cloud). While the old Reader permitted the user to choose to opt out of automatic updates, the new Reader DC requires that you permit Adobe to automatically install whatever updates Adobe chooses, without notification.

Sorry Adobe. I keep my programs updated, but I want to control what software goes on my computers, and when it goes on.

35 posted on 05/27/2015 7:23:27 PM PDT by TChad
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To: 9thLife
freeware is for socialists.

Freeware is for entrepreneurs. Many software developers start by writing free applications, develop a following, then make money by offering an enhanced-feature paid version, or integrating paid advertising.

Capitalist free market at its best.


36 posted on 05/27/2015 7:50:30 PM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: TChad

You can use Sumatra instead of Adobe for pdfs.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sumatrapdf.mirror/


37 posted on 05/27/2015 7:54:46 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; ...
Richard Stallman pontificating as always, but here he's got a darn good point! Special to the Windows Ping List ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Thanks to conservatism_IS_compassion for the ping!!

38 posted on 05/27/2015 8:04:18 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: 867V309

Agreed!


39 posted on 05/27/2015 8:05:24 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: 9thLife
"freeware is for socialists."

Nearly all of these people use Microsoft or Apple systems.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

And among them,...

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”



America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html


40 posted on 05/27/2015 8:21:22 PM PDT by familyop
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