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To: Sherman Logan

That “utopia” is a Marxist one.


9 posted on 05/28/2015 7:57:38 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Right, we can’t stay still too long because Marxist utopia will quickly become dystopia. We need to move out of the nest and on to greater challenges.


12 posted on 05/28/2015 8:02:49 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: Army Air Corps

Not necessarily.

Marxism is about controlling the means of production and distribution of “stuff.” It assumes human effort will continue to be necessary to produce “stuff.”

Like the market, Marxism simply assumes an “economy of scarcity.” They are both about how to distribute scarce resources.

What we ‘re talking about here is an “economy of abundance.” Resources, or at least some or many of them, are NOT scarce. This has already happened with information. The interwebs have made acquisition of information that previously had a very high price essentially free.

Such a world, BTW, is the logical conclusion of a market economy. The market has for centuries been bending the productivity curve upwards. Productivity can be somewhat simplistically defined as the amount of human effort needed to produce a given amount of “stuff.” The logical end point of a curve always headed up is eventual arrival at a point where infinite stuff is generated with zero human effort. Or at least something approximating this.

It’s just not as simple as Marx vs. the market. We are facing something that quite literally has no precedent. Which makes it really hard for us to think about. I most certainly include myself in that group.

From our present perspective, I think most people assume the way such a world will be dealt with is by the government redistributing the resources sincce jobs for most will no longer exist. I assume there are libertarian or non-government alternatives. I just don’t know what they are.


14 posted on 05/28/2015 8:07:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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