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Duggar Parents Lying to Protect Son Josh? Expert Says '19 Kids and Counting' Parents were Untruthful
ibtimes.co.in ^ | June 6, 2015 | Keerthi Mohan

Posted on 06/06/2015 7:27:07 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

If Josh witnessed his dad doing this a lot, it is no wonder he felt less than committed to keeping his hands to himself. At 14 years old, he didn’t know where the lines should be drawn.


101 posted on 06/06/2015 9:17:42 PM PDT by mom of young patriots
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To: Tired of Taxes

He did 4 sisters and a friend on a sleep over.One of the sisters was 5 and he did digital penetration.He admitted to molesting the girls for 16 months.He told his parents 3 different times.He was reported by Oprah because of a letter one of the molested girl’s wrote was found in a book.This was hinted about for years but when they taped the Oprah show and they received the text her staff call the police and never aired the show.The police got involved because of the call and the Father lawyer-ed up till the the stature of limitations was over.Maybe he’s cured but let’s state the facts.Read the police report.


102 posted on 06/06/2015 9:19:38 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Tired of Taxes
....”they needed to go on TV to talk about what happened because this story has spiraled out of control”....

I'm not convinced that is why they did the Fox show.......other "celebrities", which is what they are, have made simple statements from a podium and walked away without answering any questions.

These parents not only took to the stage but arranged for 'their daughters' who were the victims 'to be questioned' as well. I have a serious issue with that.

103 posted on 06/06/2015 9:22:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Scripted damage control.


104 posted on 06/06/2015 9:24:31 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Fungi

[You did not answer the question. Is it true or merely heresay? And what does “abuse” or “molestation” in this instance mean? It has not been defined nor elaborated on. Am I guilty for asking the question?]

No you are right on for asking. According to the interviews (parents and daughters) the “molestation and abuse” amounted to a 14 year old boy (their brother) inappropriately TOUCHING the girls. Most of the time it happened, the girls were not aware of it, and only learned of it after their 14 year old brother confessed to the parents.
I can see how some mind-fouled people can consider what 14 year old Josh did to these young girls to be much, much more egregious than the Gov. of Arkansas raping
Miss Broderick, and then taking advantage of a 22 year girl in the Oval Office when he was first dick.


105 posted on 06/06/2015 9:24:39 PM PDT by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: Morgana

So.... That was pretty darn bizarre


106 posted on 06/06/2015 9:27:22 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Just WHERE did you read/hear such things?
This is info that hasn’t appeared in ANY of the articles I’ve seen !


107 posted on 06/06/2015 9:28:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bodleian_Girl; Oliviaforever

ONE daughter was five. Yes. Disturbing.

Not “four” daughters “when they were four or five years old.”

It’s disturbing enough as is, without all the misinformation being added.

As for the details, we really don’t know what happened. In the police report, the father and the daughters gave conflicting accounts.


108 posted on 06/06/2015 9:31:19 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Morgana

From 40 years of law and MI work, I can tell you that so-called “lie detection experts” have no idea what really happened in any situation they did not physically watch happen.

Ask 10 about a video taped incident, and you will get ten different answers. Most often they will accuse truth tellers of lying, because if they can’t “detect lies”, who would hire them?

The Fortune Tellers at the county fair are more accurate.


109 posted on 06/06/2015 9:31:23 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: jonrick46
The problem here is it could not be said he had broken the law. He could not be considered a pedophile legally so no crime was committed.....it really was a family matter Imo.

Further... Kids do bad things every day and their parents don't haul them to the police station. Heck my son and his friend 'mooned cars' one night over Halloween and I didn't even consider calling the police. Which would be considered "indecent exposure" to those who saw them. That did not mean we didn't address the issue with them when it was discovered. But take them to the police...no.

110 posted on 06/06/2015 9:31:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Amen.


111 posted on 06/06/2015 9:33:13 PM PDT by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Oh, the ripe old age of 5?

Thanks for clearing that up.


112 posted on 06/06/2015 9:33:36 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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But I just wonder what parents who hate on the Duggars would do if their son was in the same situation

1. Law enforcement. Absolutely, as he wouldn't take correction and he became a danger to the other children.

2. Licensed Christian counseling, first for the girls and then for the son.

3. Prayer.

Why would you not surmise this would be the answer?
How could anyone be so obtuse as to need the necessary steps explained?

I think it is really sad that this forum is filled with such unregenerate filth that they insist that people disgusted by the lack of counseling for the girls... really just hate the predator.

113 posted on 06/06/2015 9:33:40 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't belOieve in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: al baby

yeah. who makes a house that is molester proof? no girls girls and boys allowed in the same room alone and on and on. I’ve never heard of such insanity.
I hope that guy is straight and narrow now but I can’t imagine at 14 wanting to touch a five year old. did the urge just go away?


114 posted on 06/06/2015 9:33:57 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Oliviaforever

[If my son molested my daughter, he would have to change his name to Caitlyn.]
You do know that this “molestation” amounted to their 14 year old brother TOUCHING them inappropriately don’t you? Also the girls were not aware of it at the time, only after the 14 year old brother confessed it to their parents.
Now, big mouth, knowing this about your son, would you still accost your son, “So he would have to change his name to “Caitlyn’?....implying of course you would remove his genitals. You are all heart man....but unfortunately no brain.


115 posted on 06/06/2015 9:34:53 PM PDT by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: jimbo807

Possibly...but there does seem to be a lot of “control” issues with this family and their faith matters.

I also suspect their church is concerned for how all this reflects on them. So they might have encouraged the family to do this....who do seem to check with the church for a lot I’m finding. So sorta gives you that culty sense about how their faith and church might well play into this.


116 posted on 06/06/2015 9:38:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: bonfire

[How many conservatives would march their kid down to the police, CPS or other gov’t agency?]

Right on. And go beyond this to any parents regardless of political leaning doing what these parents did. Also back up and ask how many 14 year old juveniles doing the same as Josh did “inappropriate touching” go to their parents, confess and therefore open up this expose.


117 posted on 06/06/2015 9:39:59 PM PDT by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: fatima
One of the sisters was 5 and he did digital penetration.

I don't see anything about "penetration" in the police report. Can you find it? Here it is:

http://imgur.com/a/zqPMi#0

He was reported by Oprah because of a letter one of the molested girl’s wrote was found in a book.

There's no evidence that one of the girls wrote the notes on the paper found in the book. A family friend is reported to have written it. And then someone else borrowed the book and found the notes, and that person contacted Oprah and the police. Oprah's company merely forwarded that person's letter to Arkansas's CPS. (That's what I see in the police report.)

the Father lawyer-ed up till the the stature of limitations was over.

The statute of limitations had already ended before the investigation was opened. The police were trying to find out if any other offenses had occurred since then. That info is at the end of the police report. Also in the police report, it's clear that no lawyer wanted to take the case.

118 posted on 06/06/2015 9:40:20 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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“Also the girls were not aware of it at the time,”

Oh, they did not know they were being molested?

Well, that makes it better.


119 posted on 06/06/2015 9:40:53 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

No one is condoning what he did. Again, it was disturbing behavior.

But the rumor that the victims were all “four or five” is not true. If everyone is going to continue screaming about this family, then at the very least, please stick to the facts.


120 posted on 06/06/2015 9:43:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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