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Why didn't the Confederate battle flag go the way of the swastika?
Chicago Reader ^ | 6-24-2015 | Michael Miner

Posted on 06/25/2015 11:59:12 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

It will certainly be flying for our July 4th deck party alongside the Gadsden.

Actually you are right. In recent years more people have been displaying the Confederate flag than I can remember in 30 years. This will just make it worse.


61 posted on 06/25/2015 2:02:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The Republican party has no relevance for conservatives. It does not represent us and actively works agains’t us. It needs to die.”

Needs to be repeated.

“The Republic formerly known as the USA is dead and has been replaced with an Oligarchy.”

Sadly, you are right.


62 posted on 06/25/2015 2:07:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The Republican party has no relevance for conservatives. It does not represent us and actively works agains’t us. It needs to die.”

Needs to be repeated.

“The Republic formerly known as the USA is dead and has been replaced with an Oligarchy.”

Sadly, you are right.


63 posted on 06/25/2015 2:07:19 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Ohioan

You are right on about Judaism in the South.

I have to do a lot of research into slave life and I am finding it hard to explain the truth to 2015 politically correct people of any race. Not being free people was absolutely horrific. Yet since many had known and couldn’t imagine anything else, they had grown used to it, and their existence was validated in the strict hierarchy of society (friends and comrades, plus some deep interracial relationships that were friends within boundaries — mistress and personal servant, master and trusted ally slave — I’m not taking about sexual relationship). And roughly half of slaves were treated well within the wrong that was slavery.

However, at least half were treated very cruelly. Their lives were dotted with horror, rape, families ripped apart, no escape from drudgery, whippings, torture. Because all masters were given the freedom to treat the people they “owned” any way they liked, there was no recourse for treatment far worse than King George treated the colonists, meaning our Constitution offered no protection to these people. Against the will of Gd. That needs to be said.

Still, African Americans just out of slavery, with brains and ambition, did so much to make the world and country a better place. Where is that leadership now? Blacks in America, some anyway, are in chains today of their own doing. They could use some real pride and leadership today.


64 posted on 06/25/2015 2:08:49 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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To: Ohioan

“The attack on Southern symbols is an attack on the heritage of the most consistently American Conservative group of voters.”

That was the whole idea! The left knows it must isolate and demean the most conservative section of the country in order to solidify its power.


65 posted on 06/25/2015 2:10:40 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“but what was the North’s problem?”

Hatred. It is that simple.


66 posted on 06/25/2015 2:13:28 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

“The Republic formerly known as the USA is dead and has been replaced with an Oligarchy.”


I’d like to see what someone like Ted Cruz has to say about this. Of course, as a candidate for Preisident, he would have to couch it in the format of “why our country is BECOMING an oligarchy, and what we need to do to stop it,” but how I would love to see this subject get out into public discourse.

We need civics. If only we could pause a few hours of gender studies and have our kids learn their personal power in the USA, as owners of our government, because they have no clue. They have been marched and shaped since preschool and don’t even realize they have power. We don’t need more sheep. We need more individuals.


67 posted on 06/25/2015 2:16:09 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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To: Citizen Zed

People wearing the confederate flag fought in WWII against the Nazis, need we say more? The gay flag is just another traitor no-flag.


68 posted on 06/25/2015 2:23:37 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Reno89519

When govt and communist progressives try to take away your culture and heritage there is no reasoned debate. Get real!


69 posted on 06/25/2015 2:25:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Reno89519

The democrats belong in a museum. The flag long ago surrendered and repented honorably, but it is democrats within which are unrepenting.

The Confederate flag was worn by honorable patriots fighting both world wars, korea vietnam and what not in various DDay national guard units, I will be damned if these people are forgotten for their honorable service.


70 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:28 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We are tourists in our own country. Now Southerners whose National Guard units fought the Nazies on D-Day are going to have to let the islamics open mosques and raise their shariah flags because the no-flag liberal pu$$ies will not fight.


71 posted on 06/25/2015 2:29:00 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: SkyDancer
So why is it that no one foams at the mouth over THIS flag?


72 posted on 06/25/2015 2:47:55 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Citizen Zed

The “new” civil war is just the old one on replay- the north ginning up hatred for the south. At least this time they aren’t killing southern boys. Yet.


73 posted on 06/25/2015 2:49:17 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

***...that Cherokees honored the Confederate side.***

The Cherokees had their own version of the Stars and Bars. A few extra stars for the indian tribes and the words CHEROKEE BRAVES sewn on the middle bar.
The LAST Confederate General to surrender was Cherokee Stand Watie.


74 posted on 06/25/2015 2:53:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Yaelle
Has Weevils in the Wheat been part of your research?
75 posted on 06/25/2015 2:53:43 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: Sequoyah101

Which Swastika!

https://www.google.com/search?q=navajo+swastika&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=521&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SnmMVfmhF4SoNp7MuAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ


76 posted on 06/25/2015 2:56:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Are they being sold anywhere in the US? Are they being displayed anywhere in the US? I’ve not seen one on anything.


77 posted on 06/25/2015 2:57:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: Reno89519
No, don’t diss the US flag because we are finally putting the Confederate flag in a museum. Two very different considerations. Can’t believe you don’t see or appreciate the difference. It is a matter of whether you believe in, respect, and support America or not. Waving the Confederate flag and defending it over or equating it with the US flag suggests otherwise.

See or appreciate the difference? What do you think the difference is to those forces that are behind this? Do you really think Liberal Fascists see a great deal of difference between the US and Confederate flags? According to them, we are all racists who need our property stripped away from us and we need to be sent to gulags or extermination camps.

I don't think you grasp the forces at work here, but perhaps Pastor Niemöller can enlighten you.

This effort to ban symbols or speech that they disagree with is simply Nazism on the march again.

78 posted on 06/25/2015 3:02:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: WayneS
Yeah. That would have been resentment inducing to be sure. Before Grant left for Appomattox Lincoln said to him "Let them up easy''.
79 posted on 06/25/2015 3:29:40 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: WayneS
I support free speech and though personally opposed to what the Confederacy stood for I don't support this stupid ban. If someones right to free speech, however offensive I find it can be denied then so can mine.
80 posted on 06/25/2015 3:32:27 PM PDT by jmacusa
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