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Smells like middle-aged spirit - boom in big outdoor music festivals may not be sustainable
The Economist ^ | Jun 27th 2015 | no byline - The live music industry

Posted on 06/27/2015 10:12:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

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To: lee martell

Steely Dan will be on tour shortly. All exceptionally good musicians.


21 posted on 06/27/2015 11:57:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“Steely Dan will be on tour shortly. All exceptionally good musicians.”

Steely Dan was mostly recorded with hi-tech of the day, in studios.

Hence the jazz/rock fusion which was relatively but not totally new. Santana did it, too.


22 posted on 06/27/2015 12:29:23 PM PDT by truth_seeker (come with the outlws.)
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To: Squawk 8888

Modern (and clinging mid-to-late career) music ping


23 posted on 06/27/2015 12:34:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: Boogieman
Now hundreds of live bands and DJs will perform on 90 stages over five days.

With 90 stages, the shared experience of the weekend is lost. And DJs are "entertainment" but not musicians.

24 posted on 06/27/2015 12:42:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: a fool in paradise

Here in Orange County, CA there is a major cover band scene which is enjoyable because:

Voices are better
Songs are familiar
Cheaper
Convenient


25 posted on 06/27/2015 12:44:30 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: truth_seeker
-- Steely Dan was mostly recorded with hi-tech of the day, in studios. --

And session musicians. Fagen's material (Nightfly, Kamakiriad) too. I'm "good" through Two Against Nature. Later than than feels repetetive, but I haven't given it a fair listen. Stuck in the past.

26 posted on 06/27/2015 12:47:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: a fool in paradise; Jack Hydrazine; Norm Lenhart; Salamander; TheOldLady; spyone; ...

This is the Modern Music Ping List. Our topic is music from the 20th and 21st century, from Ravel and Shostakovich through to the Synth Pioneers and beyond.

Topic suggestions are always welcome, and pings to music-related threads are appreciated.

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27 posted on 06/27/2015 12:49:14 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: sean327
Some festivals that get "lost in the mix" when historians talk about Woodstock. These all look to be more rock and roll (and blues) than the 'self important' folk rock scene of Wooddstock.

From the same year (with many of the same bands)

Toronto was before it. Atlanta Pop was before it. Texas Pop was after it. Toronto Rock Revival (with the Plastic Ono Band) was after it. Palm Beach Festival may have been created to cash in on it after the fact.

"

And the next year:

And some of these were in sports stadiums, not open fields.

28 posted on 06/27/2015 1:08:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: Squawk 8888

$#!* People Say at Music Festivals
by TheRoundaboutCrew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LQGo7xgPg


29 posted on 06/27/2015 1:13:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: Blue Jays

The “facilities” are a main reason I rarely go to big outdoor events. My teenagers have been to some one-day multi-performer concerts, such as the “Warped Tour.”

I think that, as with any type of recreational activity, a point will be reached where the supply exceeds the demand, and then some will go out of business.


30 posted on 06/27/2015 1:40:10 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Austin City Limits and Bonnaroo seem to be a couple of the most successful fests here. Upwards of 100,000 attendance. ACL is over two weekends. Bonnaroo, one. Haven’t attended either but my daughter has. She should be performing at both next year.


31 posted on 06/27/2015 1:43:55 PM PDT by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah, 90 stages is overkill, and I would never pay a cent to see a DJ. I mean, nowadays everyone has their whole record collection in their pocket, so what is the point?


32 posted on 06/27/2015 2:16:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Tax-chick

One-day events are as far as I’ll go. After 10 hours of walking around out in the sun (if you’re lucky), I need my own bed to sleep in :)


33 posted on 06/27/2015 2:18:02 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: a fool in paradise

The Stones are totally screwing this up for everyone, LOL!


34 posted on 06/27/2015 2:27:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: windcliff

Burt Bump! Such pretty melodies with such meaningful lyrics! :)


35 posted on 06/27/2015 2:29:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: a fool in paradise

36 posted on 06/27/2015 2:35:23 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to activate this tag line.)
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To: GSWarrior
I got a good laugh at that poster. I think the last big music festival I went to was the Phish "It" show up in Limestone Maine.

Having experienced these sort of events before... it was nice to go in style in an RV with it's own bathroom for a change. You really don't want to see the inside of a Port-a-potty at one of those weekend long sort of shows on the last day.

I have seen Mexican jail cells that were less disgusting.

37 posted on 06/27/2015 2:55:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Boogieman

Youngsters are more resilient and less squeamish than I am.


38 posted on 06/27/2015 3:16:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: GSWarrior

Ooooh! That looks like a good one!


39 posted on 06/27/2015 5:58:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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