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To: Hugin
So anyone who doesn't believe in the everything in the Bible is 100% literally true, cannot believe in God? Nonsense. What you call "fact" is a belief based on faith, not any actual evidence. That's fine, but it means nothing to anyone who doesn't share your faith, whether they believe in God or not.

Whether or not the history recorded in the Bible is true or not is irrelevant to the fact that it is a belief in the religion of the bible which is the underpinning foundation of this country.

It is on the strength of religion that people find the will power to follow the commandments and other teachings. Without a belief in the Divine powers, no one would feel compelled to follow the other teachings.

Without the people voluntarily following the commandments and teachings in the bible, civilization would never have advanced beyond the Roman stage.

Some naturally occurring ideas are simply incompatible with higher levels of civilization.

I am thinking that if you had read and understood my point in the post at the top of this thread, you would realize that the consequences do not need a supernatural factor to manifest themselves.

Indeed, they will manifest themselves because Justice Kennedy has taken another step towards removing the supernatural factor.

That supernatural factor is a necessary component of our existing system, and without it we shall revert back to an older barbaric societal organization.

29 posted on 06/27/2015 12:32:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
Whether or not the history recorded in the Bible is true or not is irrelevant to the fact that it is a belief in the religion of the bible which is the underpinning foundation of this country.

True. But also irrelevant to my point. As for the rest of your response, that's a utilitarian argument, which does not require faith to accept, and can therefore be effective even on those who don't share your faith.

34 posted on 06/27/2015 1:01:58 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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