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How can Pilots be protected from bright and blinding Laser Beams when pointed up from the ground?
July, 26, 2015 | lee martell

Posted on 07/26/2015 12:44:12 AM PDT by lee martell

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To: lee martell

Ban assault lasers.


21 posted on 07/26/2015 5:01:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: lee martell

Post “Laser-Free Zone” signs around airports.


22 posted on 07/26/2015 5:06:49 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Chainmail

I’ve seen an attack as a passenger on an AA flight.

On approach to MIA.

Pilot was talking to flight attendants about it as we deplaned

Green laser


23 posted on 07/26/2015 5:08:49 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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24 posted on 07/26/2015 5:25:01 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: lee martell

Polarized sunglasses?..............


25 posted on 07/26/2015 6:04:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: fruser1

Re polarization: The amount of polarized light transmitted through a polarizer varies with the cosine of the angle between the polarized light and the polazrizer orientation. You do not get a deep null unless they are exactly perpendicular to each other. Most of the time, roughly 50% will come through, since the relative orientation will be random.

The reason polarized sunglasses are good for glare is that the reflections from snow or water tend to be predominantly horizontally polarized, while the glasses are oriented with vertical polarization, and the perpendicularity condition is met.


26 posted on 07/26/2015 6:32:53 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Chainmail

“and there’s no single goggle or windshield coating that will block all types of laser.”

Actually there is... A high definition LCD screen with redundant external cameras. Drones are flown that way all the time, and I’ve actually flown such a craft with LCD goggles.


27 posted on 07/26/2015 6:33:14 AM PDT by babygene (I'm one of the 9.4 million War Heroes that served during the Vietnam war..../s)
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To: lee martell
I quit worrying about it when I saw these shots from a few years ago.


28 posted on 07/26/2015 6:34:57 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: jsanders2001

“Develop technology that will pinpoint the laser source then shine a laser back at them bright enough to stun and blind them so that they can’t see for hours.”

That’s called a corner cube retroreflector:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ4SnBa7bj4


29 posted on 07/26/2015 6:40:38 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: lee martell

Via laser guided munitions?


30 posted on 07/26/2015 6:54:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

On polarized windows. A laser light aimed at an aircraft above can only come from a certain range of angles, correct? So the polarization need only to be for certain angles and that would take care of most likely scenarios.


31 posted on 07/26/2015 7:00:35 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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32 posted on 07/26/2015 7:17:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< | :)~)
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33 posted on 07/26/2015 7:29:42 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: shibumi

Yeah, I’m still not sure about the angle available until damn close to below 500 feet or something without a higher elevation from the pointer to the aircraft. Bendable laser pointers? Glass bottom cockpits? Angle of approach of the aircraft? Normally a little nose up right?


34 posted on 07/26/2015 7:33:35 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
On polarized windows. A laser light aimed at an aircraft above can only come from a certain range of angles, correct?

I'd say that's partially correct, but not good enough to achieve the kind of reduction you'd want--a factor of 99% blockage. The angle I was talking about wasn't the angle of incidence between the beam's travel and the airplane window, but rather the difference between the polarization angle of the beam relative to its own path, relative to the polarization angle of the polarizer in the window (or in the pilot's glasses).

The key here is that the polarizer doesn't provide a deep null unless the alignment is right, very close to perpendicular...otherwise, it's partial blockage, and not to the degree I think is needed, as lasers are very bright. Since the transmission is roughly the cosine of the angle of difference, you'd need to be within approximately 1/100 of a radian (about 1/2 degree) to get 99% absorption.

35 posted on 07/26/2015 7:34:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: InMemoriam

Reverse laser guided missile should do the trick, spectacularly.


36 posted on 07/26/2015 7:35:49 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: lee martell

A phase-conjugate self targeting laser system matching the offending laser frequency would be an effective response. The beam energy from the ground laser acts as a pattern to be amplified by an airborne laser, which would then send a return beam in the kilowatt range directly back into the ground based system emitter. The hand holding said laser may suffer collateral damage.


37 posted on 07/26/2015 9:20:23 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: fruser1
If it’s still a problem, you can use two layers, with polarization at right angles.

That will block out ALL of the light, leaving the pilot blind to the entire spectrum.

38 posted on 07/26/2015 9:31:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Wilhelm Tell
So the polarization need only to be for certain angles and that would take care of most likely scenarios.

The polarization of the beam depends on the rotation of the laser pointer about its long axis, not the angle the beam differs from the tangent to the earth. You would have to pass laws making people rotate their pointers to the safe position. I suppose the manufacturers could put a dot on the pointer's body, with a note the says, "This side up". Of course, compliance would be an easy matter to enforce.

39 posted on 07/26/2015 9:36:19 AM PDT by GingisK
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