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Oklahoma Woman Receives Nearly $200,000 Hospital Bill After Being Bitten by Snake
KFOR ^ | JULY 30, 2015 | Chellie Mills

Posted on 07/30/2015 9:26:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A metro woman was shocked when she received a $200,000 hospital bill after being bitten by a snake.

Diane Nelson says she was wearing rubber gloves and working in her yard when she came across a Copperhead with a short temper.

Diane had been pulling grass from around her bushes when she felt a sting.

“When I pulled my glove off, I had two marks on my finger,” she said.

It was a bite from a Copperhead snake.

Within hours, Nelson’s entire arm was swollen and she was rushed to the ICU in need of anti-venom.

“I was in ICU for about two days, 48 hours,” Nelson said.

Two days and 18 vials of anti-venom later, Nelson was able to go home. She later received her bill, which was nearly $200,000 just for the anti-venom.

“The anti-venom is actually an anti-body that is specific for the type of snakes we have here in Oklahoma,” said Scott Schaeffer, with the Oklahoma Center For Poison and Drug Information.“It’s a very expensive anti-venom to make.”

Schaffer says the anti-venom is expensive for several reasons.

“The snakes have to be milked and several types are milked to create a pool of venom,” he said.

It then goes through an extensive process to create the drug, which is all done in Australia.

It is then shipped to hospitals here.

Another reason is there is a low demand for the drug and most hospitals do not keep much of it on hand.

“The shelf life compared to other drugs is relatively short. So if it doesn’t get used, it has to be discarded,” Schaeffer said.

“I was shocked. I knew it would be expensive but not that expensive,” Nelson said.

Fortunately, Nelson found out her insurance will cover the cost.

“It saved my life so I can’t complain,” she said.

If you are bitten by a snake, there are things you should not do.

Experts say you should never try to suck the venom out. In fact, Schaeffer says that could actually make it worse.

Also, don’t use ice on the bite and don’t use a tourniquet to keep the venom from spreading.

Instead, go immediately to the hospital.

Officials say while July has been a busy month for snake bites, they’re actually seeing a pretty average number for the year.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: oklahomacity
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To: Carthego delenda est

Yeah, when I was at UNM, I stepped on a needle, and it broke off in my foot.. I’d have dug it out myself if I could have turned my leg around enough to see what I was doing.

Went to Student Health Services, and the Dr. there wouldn’t do anything (that a rookie Army medic wouldn’t think twice about doing in the field) and sent me to the UNM hospital.

They called in an orthopedic surgeon who used a fluoroscope, and with an anesthesiologist and a cardiologist standing by in case I had a heart attack or something. It was insane.

They billed me $1000.00.... and that was 35 years ago.
Ever since then I’ve hated doctors who live in fear of lawyers.


121 posted on 07/31/2015 10:43:38 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: submarinerswife
The old adage here is they smell like cucumbers. Similar enough. I'll keep both in mind.

I stepped on a big one, I was barefoot at the time.

My standing broad jump would have won an Olympic gold.

122 posted on 07/31/2015 10:55:26 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: antidisestablishment

Dat Green Monster looks BAD! Where i grew up in S.Louisiana, here is the BADA$$ of all time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ2l4owxC7s&feature=player_embedded


123 posted on 07/31/2015 11:05:16 AM PDT by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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To: apostoli

That was pretty nasty. I wouldn’t want to meet either one! I hate Cottonmouths. They are mean and often strike without notice. I have almost stepped on a few of them, and it’s a miracle I didn’t have a heart attack on the spot.


124 posted on 07/31/2015 11:26:29 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (I was mad when they changed Republican states to Red, but I now I see they were right.)
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To: Talisker
Pretty standard instructions, for circumstances when medical help is within an hour, not mentioned in the article. The only actual treatment is anti venom. Cutting increases the risk of infection, and the liklihood is you'll miss the actual venom deposit, fangs being curved and of indeterminate length. Tourniquet reduces circulation, inhibiting dilution of the venom, and may damage otherwise healthy, uninfected tissue. Same problem with cold. Some sources recomend a tight gauze bandage a few inches above the bite, allowing circulation. Sucking, you have the problem of not necessarily addressing the venom deposit, and risk to whoever is applying the treatment if they have any abrasions in their mouth. I don't think there's any problem with using a pump which is probably smart to carry if nearby help is questionable.

You can find multitudes of conflicting advice, but no tourniquet (tight gauze instead), no cold, no cutting or sucking seem to be pretty widely accepted. And no one seems to object to pumps, though they may not be effective and often include scalpels. Within an hour or so of help, a clean wound and preventing shock is probably more important.

125 posted on 07/31/2015 11:35:51 AM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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To: nickcarraway

Bet the insurance company didn’t pay half of the $200,000


126 posted on 07/31/2015 11:36:31 AM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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To: nickcarraway; Larry Lucido; SaveFerris

**The snakes have to be milked**

I didn’t know they had nipples.


127 posted on 07/31/2015 11:38:34 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: LegendHasIt

Retain a medical billing negotiator.


128 posted on 07/31/2015 11:43:08 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Thanks for the advice.

But I’ve researched the actual costs of the services rendered, and told them what I am willing to pay; They can accept a fair price or sue me. I am essentially judgement proof with no income and I don’t use credit or plans for either income or credit use in the future, so I don’t much care.


129 posted on 07/31/2015 11:50:01 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: antidisestablishment
They sell them as pets, and when people can't afford to feed them...

That's the problem, right there. They either don't have the guts to put the animal down, (the sense to not buy it in the first place), or the brains to take it to a shelter or zoo.

Thank The Almighty we have Winter here, it cuts down on the invasive species.

130 posted on 07/31/2015 12:25:22 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eagles6
My standing broad jump would have won an Olympic gold.

LOL! I was checking petroglyphs out in Colorado with a friend who went to climb up a dry waterfall in the canyon and 'disturbed' a rattler.

I heard the buzz, looked over, and realized he had teleported about 50 feet away from the snake.

I never knew him to move that fast, before or since.

Amazing what a little shot of adrenaline can do for a fellow's athletic prowess.

131 posted on 07/31/2015 12:36:01 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SJackson; Axenolith; ro_dreaming; trebb; Carthego delenda est

Thanks, makes more sense now (in a number of ways).


132 posted on 07/31/2015 12:48:35 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: LegendHasIt

I am so sorry to hear about your experience. Sadly it is the rule rather than the exception.


133 posted on 07/31/2015 12:51:13 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: LegendHasIt

“Show me the signed contract”...


134 posted on 07/31/2015 2:51:36 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Yeah, I’ve used that one too.

Unfortunately if you are conscious when you come in, they make you sign a paper... they say that it is merely permission to treat you.... But it also includes that you are responsible for any charges. They pretty much consider that to be a contract to pay anyone who wants to send you a bill, whether they did anything for you, or just made up some bogus charge.


135 posted on 07/31/2015 3:03:53 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Smokin' Joe

Exactly


136 posted on 07/31/2015 3:38:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Very few people pay actual full coach fare for a plane ticket.

I'll bet gruberment types do - last minute, full boat price.

"Because we had orders."

137 posted on 07/31/2015 3:40:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: roamer_1
As pointed out by other posters, the amount settled on by the insurance company is about 30% of the stated price.
138 posted on 07/31/2015 4:45:14 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: wintertime
As pointed out by other posters, the amount settled on by the insurance company is about 30% of the stated price.

Which does the person with no insurance, but unqualified for medicaid absolutely no good - He would be on the hook for the full amount.

And even if the 'real price' is 1/3... Are you kidding me? SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? You're OK with that?

And what, pray tell, if your insurance has a handy-dandy loophole to slither out of? Then you are the bag-holder. What then?

139 posted on 07/31/2015 7:33:28 PM PDT by roamer_1
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To: Carthego delenda est

I hate them! Glad you weren’t bitten.


140 posted on 07/31/2015 7:56:51 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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